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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 11/18] jffs2: Convert jffs2_gcd_mtd kthread into the iterant API
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 00:30:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150606223001.GA18838@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1506062322550.12753@pobox.suse.cz>

On 06/06, Jiri Kosina wrote:
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> > Still I personally dislike the new kthread_sigaction() API. I agree,
> > a couple if signal helpers for kthreads make sense. Say,
> >
> > 	void kthread_do_signal_stop(void)
> > 	{
> > 		spin_lock_irq(&curtent->sighand->siglock);
> > 		if (current->jobctl & JOBCTL_STOP_DEQUEUED)
> > 			__set_current_state(TASK_STOPPED);
> > 		spin_unlock_irq(&current->sighand->siglock);
> >
> > 		schedule();
> > 	}
>
> ... not to mention the fact that 'STOP' keyword in relation to kthreads
> has completely different meaning today, which just contributes to overall
> confusion; but that's an independent story.

Yes, agreed.

> > But personally I do not think kthread_do_signal() makes a lot of sense...
>
> Would it be possible for you to elaborate a little bit more why you think
> so ... ?

Please see another email I sent in reply to 06/18.

> I personally don't see a huge principal difference between
> "kthread_signal_dequeue() + kthread_do_signal_{stop,...}" vs. generic
> "kthread_do_signal()" that's just basically completely general and takes
> care of 'everything necessary'.

Then why do we need the new API ?

And I do see the difference. Rightly or not I belive that this API buys
nothing but makes the kthread && signal interaction more complex and
confusing. For no reason.

But!

> That being said, my relationship to signal
> handling code is of course much less intimate compared to yours,

No, no, no, this doesn't matter at all ;)

Yes I do dislike this API. So what? I can be wrong. So if other reviewers
like it I will hate them all ^W^W^W not argure. So please comment. I never
trust myself unless I can technically (try to) prove I am right. In this
case I can't, this is only my feeling.

Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-06 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-05 15:00 [RFC PATCH 00/18] kthreads/signal: Safer kthread API and signal handling Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 01/18] kthread: Allow to call __kthread_create_on_node() with va_list args Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 02/18] kthread: Add API for iterant kthreads Petr Mladek
2015-06-09  6:23   ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-15 12:46     ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 03/18] kthread: Add kthread_stop_current() Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 04/18] signal: Rename kernel_sigaction() to kthread_sigaction() and clean it up Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 05/18] freezer/scheduler: Add freezable_cond_resched() Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 06/18] signal/kthread: Initial implementation of kthread signal handling Petr Mladek
2015-06-06 21:58   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-08 13:51     ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-08 21:13       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-15 13:13         ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-15 19:14           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-16  7:54             ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-09  7:10   ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-09 12:15     ` Jiri Kosina
2015-06-10  3:13       ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 07/18] kthread: Make iterant kthreads freezable by default Petr Mladek
2015-06-09  7:20   ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-09 15:53     ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-10  4:31       ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-12 13:24         ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-13 23:22           ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-15  9:28             ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 08/18] kthread: Allow to get struct kthread_iterant from task_struct Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 09/18] kthread: Make it easier to correctly sleep in iterant kthreads Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 16:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-08 10:01     ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-08 11:39       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-09 15:25         ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-10  9:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-09  7:32       ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-08 17:48     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-10  9:07       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-10 14:07         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-11  4:28           ` Jiri Kosina
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 10/18] jffs2: Remove forward definition of jffs2_garbage_collect_thread() Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 11/18] jffs2: Convert jffs2_gcd_mtd kthread into the iterant API Petr Mladek
2015-06-06 21:16   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-06 21:32     ` Jiri Kosina
2015-06-06 22:30       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-06-06 22:44         ` Jiri Kosina
2015-06-06 22:58           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 12/18] lockd: Convert the central lockd service to kthread_iterant API Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 13/18] ring_buffer: Use iterant kthreads API in the ring buffer benchmark Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 14/18] ring_buffer: Allow to cleanly freeze the ring buffer benchmark kthreads Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 15/18] ring_buffer: Allow to exit the ring buffer benchmark immediately Petr Mladek
2015-06-08 17:44   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-15 15:23     ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-15 15:33       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-15 15:54         ` Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 16/18] kthread: Support interruptible sleep with a timeout by iterant kthreads Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 17/18] ring_buffer: Use the new API for a sleep with a timeout in the benchmark Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 18/18] jffs2: Use the new API for a sleep with a timeout Petr Mladek
2015-06-05 16:22 ` [RFC PATCH 00/18] kthreads/signal: Safer kthread API and signal handling Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-09  6:14   ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-10 10:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 22:02       ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-09  6:10 ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-09  7:58   ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-17 11:34 ` Christoph Hellwig

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