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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Cc: "Richard Weinberger" <richard@nod.at>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Brian Norris" <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	"Andrea Scian" <rnd4@dave-tech.it>,
	"Iwo Mergler" <Iwo.Mergler@netcommwireless.com>,
	"Jeff Lauruhn (jlauruhn)" <jlauruhn@micron.com>,
	"Bean Huo 霍斌斌 \"(beanhuo)\"" <beanhuo@micron.com>
Subject: Re: UBI/UBIFS: dealing with MLC's paired pages
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:21:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151030092120.2d7df596@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151030091521.439f436b@bbrezillon>

On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:15:21 +0100
Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com> wrote:

> 
> 2/ skipping pages on demand is not as easy as only writing on lower
> pages of each pair. As you might know, when skipping pages to secure
> your data, you'll also have to skip some lower pages so that you end up
> with an offset to a memory region that can be contiguously written to,
> and when you skip those lower pages, you have to write on it, because
> NAND chips require that the lower page of each pair be programmed
> before the higher one (ignoring this will just render some pages
> unreliable).
> 
> 3/ UBIFS is really picky when it comes to corrupted nodes detection,
> and there are a few cases where it refuses to mount the FS when a
> corrupted node is detected. One of this case is when the corrupted
> page (filled with one or several nodes) is filled with non-ff data,

I meant, "Once of this case is when the corrupted page is followed by
a page filled with non-ff data" 

> which is likely to happen with MLC NANDs (paired pages are not
> contiguous). We discussed about relaxing this policy a few weeks ago,
> but what should we do when such a corruption is detected? Drop all
> nodes with a sequence higher or equal to the last valid node on the
> LEB?
> Note that with the consolidation-GC approach we don't have this
> problem because the consolidate LEB is added to journal after it has
> been completely filled with data, and marked as full (->free = 0) so
> that nobody can reclaim it to write data on it.

-- 
Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-30  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-17 13:22 UBI/UBIFS: dealing with MLC's paired pages Boris Brezillon
2015-09-17 15:20 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-09-17 15:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-17 16:47     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-18  7:17       ` Andrea Scian
2015-09-18  7:41         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-18  7:54         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-09-18  7:57           ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2015-09-18  9:38           ` Andrea Scian
2015-09-24  1:57             ` Karl Zhang 张双锣 (karlzhang)
2015-09-24  6:31               ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-24  7:43               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-24  9:44                 ` Stefan Roese
2015-09-29 11:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-29 12:51   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-23  8:14 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-27 20:16   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-28  9:24     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-28 10:44       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-10-28 11:14         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-28 15:50           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-10-28 12:24   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30  8:15     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30  8:21       ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2015-10-30  8:50       ` Bean Huo 霍斌斌 (beanhuo)
2015-10-30  9:08       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30  9:45         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30 10:09           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 11:49             ` Michal Suchanek
2015-10-30 12:47               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 11:43           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 11:59             ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-30 12:29               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 12:31                 ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2015-10-30 12:30             ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30 12:41               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-28 12:06 ` Artem Bityutskiy
     [not found] <A765B125120D1346A63912DDE6D8B6310BF4CAA8@NTXXIAMBX02.xacn.micron.com>
2015-09-25  7:30 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-25  8:25   ` Bean Huo 霍斌斌 (beanhuo)
2015-09-25  8:35     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-25  8:48     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-25  8:30   ` Karl Zhang 张双锣 (karlzhang)
2015-09-25  8:56     ` Boris Brezillon

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