From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Cc: "Richard Weinberger" <richard@nod.at>,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"Brian Norris" <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
"Andrea Scian" <rnd4@dave-tech.it>,
"Iwo Mergler" <Iwo.Mergler@netcommwireless.com>,
"Jeff Lauruhn (jlauruhn)" <jlauruhn@micron.com>,
"Bean Huo 霍斌斌 \"\"\"(beanhuo)\"\"\"" <beanhuo@micron.com>
Subject: Re: UBI/UBIFS: dealing with MLC's paired pages
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:30:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151030133056.53c04eb1@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1446205395.6126.69.camel@gmail.com>
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:43:15 +0200
Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-10-30 at 10:45 +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > Moreover, the standard GC only takes place when you can't find a free
> > LEB anymore, which will probably happen when you reach something
> > close
> > to half the partition size in case of MLC chips (it may be a bit
> > higher if you managed to occupy more than half of each LEB capacity).
> > This means that your FS will become slower when you reach this limit,
> > though maybe this can be addressed by triggering the GC before we run
> > out of free LEBs.
>
> Right. I'd call it a detail. But the big picture is - if you have to GC
> all the data you write, you write twice. When exactly you do the second
> write is a detail - sometimes it is deferred, it is in background etc,
> sometimes right away - you have to GC older data before being able to
> write new data.
You're right, but it makes a big difference when all your writes are
taking longer because you need to run the GC to retrieve a free LEB, and
this is probably what's gonna happen when your FS raises ~1/2 its
maximum size. Doing it in background (collecting a few valid nodes on
each GC step and letting user operations take place between each of
these step) should help mitigating this problem.
>
> Now, by no means I am criticizing you or your decisions, you are doing
> great job. I am more like summarizing and trying to give you some food
> for thoughts. :-)
No problem, I don't take it personally. I actually think arguing
on technical stuff is a good way to find the best solution ;-).
--
Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-30 12:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-17 13:22 UBI/UBIFS: dealing with MLC's paired pages Boris Brezillon
2015-09-17 15:20 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-09-17 15:46 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-17 16:47 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-18 7:17 ` Andrea Scian
2015-09-18 7:41 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-18 7:54 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-09-18 7:57 ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2015-09-18 9:38 ` Andrea Scian
2015-09-24 1:57 ` Karl Zhang 张双锣 (karlzhang)
2015-09-24 6:31 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-24 7:43 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-24 9:44 ` Stefan Roese
2015-09-29 11:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-29 12:51 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-23 8:14 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-27 20:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-28 9:24 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-28 10:44 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-10-28 11:14 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-28 15:50 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-10-28 12:24 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 8:15 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30 8:21 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30 8:50 ` Bean Huo 霍斌斌 (beanhuo)
2015-10-30 9:08 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 9:45 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30 10:09 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 11:49 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-10-30 12:47 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 11:43 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 11:59 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-30 12:29 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 12:31 ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2015-10-30 12:30 ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2015-10-30 12:41 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-28 12:06 ` Artem Bityutskiy
[not found] <A765B125120D1346A63912DDE6D8B6310BF4CAA8@NTXXIAMBX02.xacn.micron.com>
2015-09-25 7:30 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-25 8:25 ` Bean Huo 霍斌斌 (beanhuo)
2015-09-25 8:35 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-25 8:48 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-25 8:30 ` Karl Zhang 张双锣 (karlzhang)
2015-09-25 8:56 ` Boris Brezillon
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