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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz <jorge.ramirez-ortiz@linaro.org>
Cc: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, matthias.bgg@gmail.com, robh@kernel.org,
	daniel.thompson@linaro.org, xiaolei.li@mediatek.com,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mtd: mediatek: driver for MTK Smart Device Gen1 NAND
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 11:00:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160309110030.225e8f9d@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56DF3CC8.7070400@linaro.org>

On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 15:57:44 -0500
Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz <jorge.ramirez-ortiz@linaro.org> wrote:

> On 03/08/2016 03:20 PM, Brian Norris wrote:
> >> > If you feel strongly about it I don't mind adding an additional check after any
> >> > form of sleep (not so sure about adding it after a cpu_relax) but I don't think
> >> > it is needed.
> > It is non-negotiable that your timeout loops must be logically correct.
> > That is, you must recheck the exit condition before you declare a
> > timeout.
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> My point was that the current timeout loops (except one which is just
> implementing its own version of readx_poll_timeout) are logically correct as
> they are since they are not involving the scheduler: so doing the additional
> check after cpu_relax() is unnecessary - cpu_relax is a dmb instruction.
> 
> >
> > If you just follow Boris's suggestion of using the helper macros, then
> > you'll be fine.
> 
> I am sorry (not trying to be difficult here) but relaxed_poll_timeout calls
> usleep_range and involving the scheduler brings in a level of undeterminism (so
> we could have slept for 100 useconds or 1000)
> am I wrong? is under that case that we need to check after exiting the loop.
> 
> a different discussion is if using cpu_relax (busy loop) at all is a good idea:
> the way I see it, that should depend on the case but I suppose a silver bullet
> solution via the helper macros is ok too - and certainly more readable and
> easier to maintain - so will do as you suggest (correct all loops).
> 

Note that if you want to avoid sleeping between each test, you can use
readx_poll_timeout_atomic(), which are replacing usleep_range() calls
by udelay().


-- 
Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-09 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-02 17:00 [RFC PATCH 0/3] MTK Smart Device Gen1 NAND support Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2016-03-02 17:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] mtd: mediatek: device tree docs for MTK Smart Device Gen1 NAND Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2016-03-08 15:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-08 18:19     ` Brian Norris
2016-03-08 15:15   ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-02 17:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] mtd: mediatek: driver " Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2016-03-08 16:24   ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-08 17:17     ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2016-03-08 18:17     ` Brian Norris
2016-03-08 20:08       ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2016-03-08 20:20         ` Brian Norris
2016-03-08 20:57           ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2016-03-08 21:22             ` Brian Norris
2016-03-08 22:02               ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2016-03-09 10:00             ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2016-03-09 20:01     ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2016-03-09 20:43       ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-18 14:00         ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2016-03-18 14:24           ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-15 12:28     ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2016-03-15 12:59       ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-15 13:21         ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz
2016-03-15 13:53           ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-02 17:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] mtd: mediatek: device tree enable NAND in MTK's 2701 evb Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz

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