From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from down.free-electrons.com ([37.187.137.238] helo=mail.free-electrons.com) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.85_2 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1bFjK4-0003T8-Sb for linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:40:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 16:39:47 +0200 From: Boris Brezillon To: Richard Weinberger Cc: "linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" , Artem Bityutskiy , Alexander Kaplan , Brian Norris , Ezequiel Garcia Subject: Re: [RFC] Raising the UBI version Message-ID: <20160622163947.36ac7f3e@bbrezillon> In-Reply-To: <576A9EF0.9020007@nod.at> References: <57699356.4030802@nod.at> <20160622144344.07ba4d41@bbrezillon> <576A989A.6080502@nod.at> <20160622160118.28a4339a@bbrezillon> <576A9B1D.3010201@nod.at> <20160622161304.6a16da85@bbrezillon> <576A9EF0.9020007@nod.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: Linux MTD discussion mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 16:21:36 +0200 Richard Weinberger wrote: > Am 22.06.2016 um 16:13 schrieb Boris Brezillon: > >> /sys/class/ubi/version is the version of the UBI implementation, > >> not the version of the attached UBI image. > >> It will the here as soon you load the UBI module. > > > > Do we have /sys/class/ubi/ubiX/version for the UBI image version? > > No. That's why I plan to add /sys/class/ubi/ubiX/features_used to > show which features the attached UBI image requested. > And having a /sys/class/ubi/ubi/features which denotes what features > the _implementation_ supports. Still the version and features are encoding different things IMO. Incrementing the on-flash version means that the on-flash format has changed in an incompatible way, while features denotes the fact that the existing format has been extended with new features but is backward compatible. > > > This is still unclear to me why we need to version the > > user-space/kernel-space ABI, since it's supposed to be backward > > compatible, so adding new features requires adding new ioctls and > > keeping the old ones in a working state. > > > > What is /sys/class/ubi/version actually encoding? Isn't it encoding the > > fact that a specific UBI implementation is supporting all UBI on-flash > > formats up to format version X (that was my understanding)? > > > > Well, /sys/class/ubi/version exports UBI_VERSION from ubi-media.h. > It is (ab)used to encode the ABI version *and* the on-flash version. The on-flash versions supported by the implementation is a useful information. > The problem is that mtd-utils libubi will refuse to work with > /sys/class/ubi/version unequal 1. > > Here the gem from libubi: > if (read_positive_int(lib->ubi_version, &version)) > goto out_error; > if (version != LIBUBI_UBI_VERSION) { > errmsg("this library was made for UBI version %d, but UBI " > "version %d is detected\n", LIBUBI_UBI_VERSION, version); > goto out_error; > } And this is where the problem is: libubi does not make proper use of this information. We should either have if (version >= LIBUBI_UBI_VERSION) or, if we decide that version is a bitfield directly encoding which versions are supported by the implementation #define VERSION_SUPPORTED(version, x) ((version) & BIT((x)-1))) if (VERSION_SUPPORTED(version, 1)) > > This is why I want to hardcode it to 1. > Everything else will break existing user space in some way. > 10 years ago /sys/class/ubi/version seemed like a good idea > but now it hits us hard. Yes, I understand that, but this also means /sys/class/ubi/version is just a dummy file which only purpose is to make libubi happy :). If this is the case, then I think we should have another file encoding the supported on-flash formats...