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From: Ralph Sennhauser <ralph.sennhauser@gmail.com>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
Cc: Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Zoltan HERPAI <wigyori@uid0.hu>,
	Hauke Mehrtens <hauke@hauke-m.de>,
	lede-dev@lists.infradead.org, openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/3] UBI: unify mouting rootfs based on cmdline parameter
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 11:19:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160828111931.6eb3a10d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d150f68e-688f-0fff-1d4f-b768d6665ff1@nod.at>

Hi Richard,

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 10:12:31 +0200
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> wrote:

> Ralph,
> 
> On 28.08.2016 09:10, Ralph Sennhauser wrote:
> > Using CONFIG_CMDLINE or the dtb isn't an option either for dual
> > firmware devices. You'd have to provide two images, one for each
> > partition so the rootfs belonging to the kernel gets mounted.
> > Sounds like a recipe for disaster.  
> 
> With "image" you mean the uImage?

uImage - padding to 6MB - ubinized rootfs. A firmware image as is
flashed by users.

Linksys set it up so that if one firmware image is broken there is a
good chance the bootloader will attempt to boot the other.

> Well, then you need to add the cmdline to the DT.
> If your bootloader does not support DT loading and you need to append
> it to uImage, yes, you'll have to two uImage for these devices.

Two uImages / firmware images is probably more problematic than asking
the user to fix the kernel parameters passed by u-boot.

> Or a initramfs...
> 
> But IMHO it still does not justify adding these hacks to the kernel.
> 

Those hacks can be justified if there is a case an initramfs or
CONFIG_CMDLINE/dtb doesn't work. I can't think of such a case right
now.

> > On the other hand an initramfs can carry the logic to figure out
> > which to mount and is what I use for my self. The busybox based
> > implementation I use adds a tad over 300Kb to the uImage, perfectly
> > acceptable in my case.  
> 
> When your minimal initramfs consumes 300KiB you're doing something
> wrong. As I said in another thread, for your special purpose you'd
> need to create a minitmal userspace for initramfs, no fancy (eg)libc,
> just a bare minimum /init program which does the mount probing.
> Shouldn’t be more than a few system calls.
> 
> Thanks,
> //richard

Well, I use busybox because I'm lazy and still get away with only 300Kb.
And as I said there is plenty space on my device. (6M per uImage OEM
firmware configuration)

Cheers
Ralph

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-28  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-27 19:43 [PATCH/RFC 0/3] UBI: unify mouting rootfs based on cmdline parameter Daniel Golle
2016-08-27 20:43 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-08-27 21:06   ` Daniel Golle
2016-08-27 21:23     ` Richard Weinberger
2016-08-27 23:13       ` Daniel Golle
2016-08-27 23:33         ` Richard Weinberger
2016-08-28  6:47           ` Boris Brezillon
2016-08-28  7:10   ` Ralph Sennhauser
2016-08-28  8:12     ` Richard Weinberger
2016-08-28  9:19       ` Ralph Sennhauser [this message]
2016-08-28  9:28         ` Richard Weinberger
2016-08-28 11:44           ` Daniel Golle
2016-08-28 11:57             ` Richard Weinberger
2016-08-28 13:47               ` Daniel Golle
2016-08-28 14:17                 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-08-28 12:10             ` Ralph Sennhauser
2016-08-28 13:24             ` Boris Brezillon
2016-08-28 14:12 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2016-08-28 14:20   ` Boris Brezillon
2016-08-28 14:25     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2016-08-28 14:40       ` Daniel Golle
2016-08-28 15:00         ` Boris Brezillon
2016-08-28 15:24           ` Daniel Golle
2016-08-28 16:35             ` Boris Brezillon
2016-08-28 14:32     ` Daniel Golle
2016-08-28 14:27   ` Daniel Golle
2016-08-28 14:54     ` Ezequiel Garcia

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