From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: Mario Rugiero <mrugiero@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mtd: nand: add option to erase NAND blocks even if detected as bad.
Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 10:24:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170512102407.217b805a@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKKQwLTGFY+bfFCoPNtvpFK-w-3SnNc_G2xDd_xip3iiwVDM4A@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, 12 May 2017 05:16:08 -0300
Mario Rugiero <mrugiero@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2017-05-12 5:12 GMT-03:00 Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>:
> > Mario,
> >
> > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Mario J. Rugiero <mrugiero@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Some chips used under a custom vendor driver can get their blocks
> >> incorrectly detected as bad blocks, out of incompatibilities
> >> between such drivers and MTD drivers.
> >> When there are too many misdetected bad blocks, the device becomes
> >> unusable because a bad block table can't be allocated, aside from
> >> all the legitimately good blocks which become unusable under these
> >> conditions.
> >> This adds a build option to workaround the issue by enabling the
> >> user to free up space regardless of what the driver thinks about
> >> the blocks.
> >
> > Hmm, this sounds like a gross hack.
> It is, but I see no other solution. The NAND chips were used in an
> incompatible way by a hack-n-slash driver made by allwinner, and
> trying to load them with a proper MTD driver fails miserably if this
> is not done.
> If anyone can propose a better solution I'll more than happily implement it.
> I'm open to suggestions, and of course I'm open to rejection of my
> patches if needed.
u-boot provides the nand.scrub command, which does exactly what you're
looking for. And no, I don't think it's a good idea to allow erasing
bad blocks, at least not by default.
If we really want to support this feature in linux, this should be
explicitly enabled through debugfs.
> >
> >> Example usage: recovering NAND chips on sunxi devices, as explained
> >> here: http://linux-sunxi.org/Mainline_NAND_Howto#Known_issues
> >
> > What this wiki suggests is not wise.
> > How can you know which blocks are really bad and which not?
> You don't, at least not without an even grosser hack implementing read
> support for their incompatible format.
> Would that be better? I might attempt it if desired.
No, please don't do that, at least not in the kernel. If you really
want to parse the old format, you should develop a tool that reads NAND
pages in raw mode, stores the list of bad blocks somewhere and then
re-use this list to select which blocks should be forcibly erased.
Not sure it's worth the pain :-).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-12 8:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-12 5:39 [PATCH] mtd: nand: add option to erase NAND blocks even if detected as bad Mario J. Rugiero
2017-05-12 5:52 ` [PATCH v2] " Mario J. Rugiero
2017-05-12 7:39 ` [PATCH v3] " Mario J. Rugiero
2017-05-15 8:21 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-05-15 9:23 ` Richard Weinberger
2017-05-15 9:41 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-05-15 10:10 ` Richard Weinberger
2017-05-15 11:05 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-05-15 13:16 ` Mario Rugiero
2017-05-15 13:20 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-05-12 8:12 ` [PATCH] " Richard Weinberger
2017-05-12 8:16 ` Mario Rugiero
2017-05-12 8:24 ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2017-05-12 8:33 ` Richard Weinberger
2017-05-12 8:44 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-05-12 8:45 ` Richard Weinberger
2017-05-12 8:34 ` Mario Rugiero
2017-05-12 8:45 ` Boris Brezillon
[not found] ` <CAKKQwLQueea6G4B-cng9QdpjtRWyBWHw1Mq9ai3DVp31xswANg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-05-12 9:02 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-05-12 9:15 ` Mario Rugiero
2017-05-12 9:16 ` Mario Rugiero
2017-05-12 9:32 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-05-12 9:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2017-05-12 9:26 ` Mario Rugiero
2017-05-12 9:34 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-05-12 10:06 ` Mario Rugiero
2017-05-12 10:19 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-05-12 10:23 ` Mario Rugiero
2017-05-12 10:34 ` Mario Rugiero
2017-05-13 9:17 ` Richard Weinberger
2017-05-15 2:54 ` Mario Rugiero
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