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From: Lukasz Majewski <lukma@denx.de>
To: "linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Cyrille Pitchen <cyrille.pitchen@wedev4u.fr>
Subject: [NAND] Question regarding -EIO error
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 21:27:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171113212701.01de0c47@jawa> (raw)

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Dear All,

I was investigating the -EIO issue for page write from 2.6.26 kernel up
till 4.14-rc7.

A foreword:
-----------

Before the commit (v4.4):
mtd: nand: increase ready wait timeout and report timeouts [1]
b70af9bef49bd9a5f4e7a2327d9074e29653e665

The timeout for nand memory write (nand_page_write()) was ignored (as
mentioned in [1]).
The nand_write_page() (@nand_base.c) only checks for NAND_STATUS_FAIL
(and returns -EIO).

In the old days it also used CONFIG_MTD_NAND_VERIFY_WRITE to check if
correct data is written (if not -EIO was returned immediately).
This was removed with [2]:
"mtd: kill MTD_NAND_VERIFY_WRITE"
657f28f8811c92724db10d18bbbec70d540147d6

The commit:
"mtd: nand_wait: warn if the nand is busy on exit"
f251b8dfdd0721255ea11751cdc282834e43b74e

added WARN_ON() on timeout.

Setup:
-----

I've run mtd_*.ko tests on several kernels and two memories.

With mtd_torture tests (and timeout set to 20ms):
modprobe mtd_torturetest dev=${device} check=1 cycles_count=100 gran=10

forces both memories to timeout (at random execution place) with -EIO
error returned.

Please correct me if I'm wrong:
-------------------------------

With the new kernel (v4.14-rc7) we rely on:

1. Page write timeout increased from 20ms -> 400 ms (as in [1])

2. The WARN_ON() is displayed when we leave nand_wait() with ongoing
NAND controller operation.

3. As written in [2] the correctness of written data is check in upper
layers (fs) -> when memory return no fails, but internal controller
still writes data.


Problem:
--------

Normally to exit nand_wait loop I do read RnB GPIO pin
(chip->dev_ready). 

When we got a timeout passed status from one memory is 0x81.
Second one returns no errors (0x80) - but the write data check fails.
According to spec bits 5 and 6 (of status register) are 0 -> Internal
data operation Busy and overall Busy.

The problem here is that we exit nand_wait with NAND memory controller
still being busy. Timeout change[1] from 20ms -> 400ms just 'masked'
this issue.


Question:
---------

Shall not we wait more (@nand_wait) for internal operations to be
finished?


To reproduce:
-------------

Change back the timeout value from 400ms to 20m and run mtd_*.ko tests.


Best regards,

Lukasz Majewski

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             reply	other threads:[~2017-11-13 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-13 20:27 Lukasz Majewski [this message]
2017-11-13 21:19 ` [NAND] Question regarding -EIO error Boris Brezillon
2017-11-13 23:18   ` Lukasz Majewski

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