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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: Greg Cook <greg@morpheus.ws>
Cc: "Ezequiel Garcia" <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar>,
	"Sean Nyekjær" <sean.nyekjaer@prevas.dk>,
	"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Kasper Revsbech (KREV)" <krev@triax.com>,
	"Ezequiel Garcia" <ezequiel.garcia@free-electrons.com>,
	"Miquel RAYNAL" <miquel.raynal@free-electrons.com>
Subject: Re: [BUG] pxa3xx: wait time out when scanning for bb
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 09:15:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171212091517.3e8b193c@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL92e2XGRjSdb7xPP2wBCymJXy97LB+a2M+QqvereJ_9V7B-hA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 15:30:03 +0800
Greg Cook <greg@morpheus.ws> wrote:

> On 12 December 2017 at 15:09, Ezequiel Garcia
> <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar> wrote:
> > On 12 December 2017 at 03:01, Greg Cook <greg@morpheus.ws> wrote:  
> >> On 12 December 2017 at 05:16, Boris Brezillon
> >> <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com> wrote:  
> >>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 13:24:56 -0300
> >>> Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar> wrote:
> >>>  
> >>>> Greg,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11 December 2017 at 10:18, Greg Cook <greg@morpheus.ws> wrote:  
> >>>> > Sean,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am not completely up-to-date on this, but everything in your traces reads
> >>>> > like the same issue I was having on bringup for Armada 385 nand (under 4.9).
> >>>> > I've been stuck on another project, so I haven't had time to follow up
> >>>> > further, but I just diffed against linux-stable v4.12 pxa3xx_nand.c and it
> >>>> > looks like the problem is still there.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > As far as I can see, the driver is broken for OOB reads when BCH is enabled
> >>>> > because the setup in prepare_set_command() results in drain_fifo() not
> >>>> > reading enough words from the read fifo in the nfc2 IP block.  
> >>>
> >>> May I ask how you you get to this conclusion? What makes you think
> >>> there's still unread data in the FIFO?  
> >>
> >> Because I added some debug lines to count the number of bytes read and
> >> I could  see handle_data_pio() was reading 2048 bytes, followed by 32
> >> bytes of spare. If you have Marvell MV-S109094-00 REV C handy, you can
> >> see in Table 36 that this is not correct. The correct number of spare
> >> bytes for the NFCv2 IP block is
> >> - 64 bytes when SPARE_EN==1 and ECC_EN==0
> >> - 32 bytes when SPARE_EN==1 and ECC_EN==1
> >>  
> >>>> >  
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, this sounds just like the bug I was expecting for OOB reads.
> >>>>  
> >>>> > The patch we are using is below. I have the following in my DTS.
> >>>> > nand-keep-config is commented out because I was having some issues with
> >>>> > u-boot at the time and it may no longer be relevant:  
> >>>>
> >>>> Probably.
> >>>>  
> >>>> > flash@d0000 {
> >>>> > status = "okay";
> >>>> > num-cs = <1>;
> >>>> > //marvell,nand-keep-config;
> >>>> > marvell,nand-enable-arbiter;
> >>>> > nand-on-flash-bbt;
> >>>> > nand-ecc-strength = <4>;
> >>>> > nand-ecc-step-size = <512>;
> >>>> > };
> >>>> >
> >>>> > --- /home/user/build/linux-stable/drivers/mtd/nand/pxa3xx_nand.c
> >>>> > +++
> >>>> > /home/user/build/beam/openwrt/build_dir/target-arm_cortex-a9+vfpv3_musl_eabi/linux-mvebu/linux-4.9.34/drivers/mtd/nand/pxa3xx_nand.c
> >>>> > @@ -668,7 +669,7 @@
> >>>> >
> >>>> >  static void drain_fifo(struct pxa3xx_nand_info *info, void *data, int len)
> >>>> >  {
> >>>> > - if (info->ecc_bch) {
> >>>> > + if (info->use_ecc && info->ecc_bch) {  
> >>>
> >>> This one might explain timeouts occurring when you drain the FIFO for
> >>> an operation that does not enable the ECC engine (like
> >>> READ_PARAM_PAGE).
> >>>
> >>> So this fix is indeed valid, but I'm almost sure it won't fix Sean's
> >>> problem.  
> >>
> >> From memory, I don't *think* specific line wasn't causing me any
> >> issues, but I noticed it was not correct because of the way use_ecc
> >> and ecc_bch flags are initialised and then used. As you say, without
> >> this patch, you can get timeouts on non-ECC operations when you have
> >> BCH ECC enabled generally.
> >>  
> >>>  
> >>>> >   u32 val;
> >>>> >   int ret;
> >>>> >
> >>>> > @@ -1012,7 +1014,11 @@
> >>>> >
> >>>> >   if (info->cur_chunk < info->nfullchunks) {
> >>>> >   info->step_chunk_size = info->chunk_size;
> >>>> > - info->step_spare_size = info->spare_size;
> >>>> > + if (info->use_ecc) {
> >>>> > + info->step_spare_size = info->spare_size;
> >>>> > + } else {
> >>>> > + info->step_spare_size = info->spare_size + info->ecc_size;
> >>>> > + }  
> >>>
> >>> The only case this change would fix is when you try to read/write pages
> >>> in raw mode, and I'm pretty sure this driver does not support raw
> >>> accesses.  
> >>
> >> Why do you say it would only affect raw mode? This code is not
> >> specific to raw mode, nor
> >> is the related code in handle_data_pio(), which uses the value of
> >> step_spare_size to drain
> >> the hardware FIFO.
> >>  
> >
> > AFAICS, this patch affects READOOB commands, which are
> > issued when there is no BBT to detect bad blocks.  
> 
> Agree that this only really affects READOOB, because READ0 will always
> use ECC. I guess this is why it's only catching people at bringup
> because we are booting into Linux with a blank device.

I overlooked the READOOB case. What I don't understand though is why we
are disabling ECC in this case. I mean, free OOB bytes seem to be
ECC protected (at least for BCH), so ECC should stay enabled when
reading those bytes, unless we're in raw mode.

> 
> >
> > It "fixes" the timeout, but I wouldn't go as far as assuring
> > it makes the on-flash bad block scheme work, given
> > OOB writes will still be done with ECC enabled.
> >
> > It seems this drivers mandates a BBT to work properly,
> > so perhaps a better patch would be to (a) force BBT usage,
> > and avoid OOB operations altogether, avoiding nasty
> > timeouts and unhappy board-bringupers.
> >
> > Or (b) fix the READOOB and then
> > WARN/pr_warning about OOB I/O being broken.
> >
> > The new driver under discussion, apparently makes AOOB
> > actually usable (arguably, without much utility as OOB
> > is mostly used for ECC anyway).
> >
> > Ideas?  
> 
> Does mandating BBT usage avoid the bug? Aren't you always going to hit
> it on a blank NAND device straight off the production line?

The timeout bug should be fixed. The fact that a valid BBT is required
after the device has been programmed (because BBM are screwed up by the
controller) is orthogonal to timeout on READOOB commands.

Regards,

Boris

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-12  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-28  9:12 [BUG] pxa3xx: wait time out when scanning for bb Sean Nyekjær
2017-11-28 13:02 ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-11-28 13:12   ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-11-28 13:30     ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-11-28 13:42       ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-11-28 14:04         ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-11-29  7:14           ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-11-29  8:03             ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-11-30 12:00               ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-11-30 17:18                 ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-11-30 18:13                   ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-01  8:15                     ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-01  8:54                       ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-07 20:38                         ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-08  9:04                           ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-08  9:21                             ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-11  8:25                               ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-11  8:45                                 ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-11  9:53                                 ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-11 10:20                                   ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-11 11:35                                     ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-11 13:22                                       ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-11 14:02                                         ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-11 14:09                                           ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-11 14:49                                             ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-12  8:44                                             ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-12  8:51                                               ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-12  8:56                                                 ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-12 10:12                                                   ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-12 10:55                                                     ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-12 11:08                                                       ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-12 11:28                                                         ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-12 11:35                                                           ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-12 11:49                                                             ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-12 12:47                                                               ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-12 13:09                                                                 ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-12 13:35                                                                   ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-12 18:10                                                                     ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-12 18:23                                                                       ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-13  6:25                                                                         ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-13  8:41                                                                           ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-13  9:31                                                                             ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-15 17:25                                                                             ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-15 18:56                                                                               ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-15 19:19                                                                                 ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-17 11:56                                                                                   ` Sean Nyekjaer
2017-12-17 13:19                                                                                     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-17 21:47                                                                                       ` Sean Nyekjaer
2017-12-17 22:00                                                                                         ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-17 22:15                                                                                           ` [SPAM] " Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-17 22:19                                                                                             ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-17 22:19                                                                                             ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-18  6:23                                                                                               ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-18  8:56                                                                                                 ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-18  9:26                                                                                                   ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-18  9:35                                                                                                     ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-18 10:12                                                                                                       ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-18 10:19                                                                                                         ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-18 10:26                                                                                                           ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-18 10:45                                                                                                             ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-18 10:48                                                                                                               ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-18 12:43                                                                                                                 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-18  8:57                                                                                                 ` [SPAM] " Boris Brezillon
2017-12-17 13:48                                                                                     ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-11 20:11                                     ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-09 23:18       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2017-12-10 14:17         ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-11 12:30           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2017-12-11 13:13             ` Miquel RAYNAL
2017-12-11 16:08               ` Ezequiel Garcia
2017-12-11 16:41                 ` Miquel RAYNAL
     [not found]             ` <CAL92e2W7fLjVOWFgH2PpRLRP7Tf5L1vta0jduWm+bTVm647MNQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-12-11 16:24               ` Ezequiel Garcia
2017-12-11 16:45                 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-11 21:16                 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-12-12  6:01                   ` Greg Cook
2017-12-12  7:09                     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2017-12-12  7:30                       ` Greg Cook
2017-12-12  8:15                         ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2017-12-12 16:22                           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2017-12-12  6:36               ` Sean Nyekjær
2017-12-12  6:50                 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2017-12-12  7:17                   ` Greg Cook
2017-12-09 23:04   ` Ezequiel Garcia
2017-12-09 23:22 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2017-12-09 23:24   ` Ezequiel Garcia

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