From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: Arseniy Krasnov <avkrasnov@sberdevices.ru>
Cc: Liang Yang <liang.yang@amlogic.com>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>,
Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>,
Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: clear OOB buffer before read
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 14:17:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230502141703.29f0bc30@xps-13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2b2f5cb4-84f7-65f6-13b2-42f965503023@sberdevices.ru>
Hi Arseniy,
Richard, your input is welcome below :-)
> >>>>>>> I just checked JFFS2 mount/umount again, here is what i see:
> >>>>>>> 0) First attempt to mount JFFS2.
> >>>>>>> 1) It writes OOB to page N (i'm using raw write). It is cleanmarker value 0x85 0x19 0x03 0x20. Mount is done.
> >>>>>>> 2) Umount JFFS2. Done.
> >>>>>>> 3) Second attempt to mount JFFS2.
> >>>>>>> 4) It reads OOB from page N (i'm using raw read). Value is 0x85 0x19 0x03 0x20. Done.
> >>>>>>> 5) It reads page N in ECC mode, and i get:
> >>>>>>> jffs2: mtd->read(0x100 bytes from N) returned ECC error
> >>>>>>> 6) Mount failed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We already had problem which looks like this on another device. Solution was to use OOB area which is
> >>>>>>> not covered by ECC for JFFS2 cleanmarkers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ok, so there is not ECC parity bytes and mtd->read() returns ECC error.
> >>>>> does it have to use raw write/read on step 1) and 4)?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If i'm using non raw access to OOB, for example write OOB (user bytes) in ECC mode, then
> >>>> steps 1) and 4) and 5) passes ok, but write to this page will be impossible (for example JFFS2
> >>>> writes to such pages later) - we can't update ECC codes properly without erasing whole page.
> >>>> Write operation will be done without problem, but read will trigger ECC errors due to broken
> >>>> ECC codes.
> >>>>
> >>>> In general problem that we discuss is that in current implementation data and OOB conflicts
> >>>> with each other by sharing same ECC codes, these ECC codes could be written only once (without
> >>>> erasing), while data and OOB has different callbacks to access and thus supposed to work
> >>>> separately.
> >>>
> >>> The fact that there might be helpers just for writing OOB areas or just
> >>> in-band areas are optimizations. NAND pages are meant to be written a
> >>> single time, no matter what portion you write. In some cases, it is
> >>> possible to perform subpage writes if the chip supports it. Pages may
> >>> be split into several areas which cover a partial in-band area *and* a
> >>> partial OOB area. If you write into the in-band *or* out-of-band areas
> >>> of a given subpage, you *cannot* write the other part later without
> >>
> >> Thanks for details! So in case of JFFS2 it looks like strange, that it tries
> >> to write page after writing clean markers to it before? In the old vendor's
> >> driver OOB write callback is suppressed by return 0 always and JFFS2 works
> >> correctly.
> >
> > Can you point the code you're mentioning? (both what JFFS2 which looks
> > strange to you and the old vendor hack)
>
> Here is version of the old vendor's driver:
>
> https://github.com/kszaq/linux-amlogic/blob/master_new_amports/drivers/amlogic/nand/nand/aml_nand.c#L3260
>
> In my version there is no BUG() there, but it is same driver for the same chip.
>
> About JFFS2 - i didn't check its source code, but what I can see using printk(), is that it first
> tries to write cleanmarker using OOB write callback. Then later it tries to write to this page, so
> may be it is unexpected behaviour of JFFS2?
TBH I am not knowledgeable about JFFS2, maybe Richard can help here.
Are you sure you flash is recognized by JFFS2 as being a NAND device?
Did you enable CONFIG_JFFS2_FS_WRITEBUFFER correctly? Because
cleanmarker seem to be discarded when using a NAND device, and
recognizing the device as a NAND device requires the above option to be
set apparently.
Thanks,
Miquèl
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-12 6:16 [PATCH v1 0/5] refactoring and fix for Meson NAND Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 6:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: fix NAND access for read/write Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 9:37 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 10:24 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 12:03 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 13:30 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-13 5:10 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-13 5:57 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-17 6:47 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-17 13:54 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-17 14:10 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-19 19:43 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-20 14:22 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-21 5:57 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-26 7:53 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-26 12:17 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-26 14:47 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-04 6:16 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-10 11:34 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-11 10:43 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 6:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: replace GENMASK() macro with define Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 7:37 ` Neil Armstrong
2023-04-12 10:06 ` David Laight
2023-04-12 10:11 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 6:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: check buffer length Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 7:39 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 6:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: clear OOB buffer before read Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 7:44 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 7:47 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 9:20 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 9:36 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 10:14 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 10:51 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 11:36 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 11:43 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-04-12 11:47 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 12:28 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 12:18 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 12:22 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 12:57 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 14:04 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 14:32 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13 5:32 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-13 6:11 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-13 7:00 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-13 8:22 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13 9:36 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-13 10:22 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13 10:35 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-18 5:12 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-18 12:24 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-18 12:44 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-18 13:25 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-18 14:57 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-18 15:07 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-19 3:05 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-19 6:41 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-20 9:37 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-26 13:51 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-26 14:46 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-02 9:59 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-05-02 10:11 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-02 11:27 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-05-02 11:32 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-02 12:17 ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2023-05-02 12:24 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-02 13:05 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-05-02 16:13 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-03 8:03 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-05-03 10:23 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-04 11:37 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-04 12:17 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-05-04 12:31 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-05-03 19:48 ` Richard Weinberger
2023-05-04 11:40 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-13 8:22 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 19:15 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-04-12 20:56 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13 9:27 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-04-13 10:29 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13 14:03 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-04-12 6:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: remove unneeded bitwise OR with zeroes Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 7:45 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] refactoring and fix for Meson NAND Miquel Raynal
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