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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, manfred@colorfullife.com,
	boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com,
	david.oberhollenzer@sigma-star.at
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Add flight recorder to MTDRAM
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 11:41:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <252100234.Y1JYG21Gen@blindfold> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171206085039.27164-1-dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>

Dirk, Manfred,

Am Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017, 09:50:34 CET schrieb Dirk Behme:
> From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The series adds a flight recorder to MTDRAM.

Thanks a lot for sharing your tool, this is highly appreciated.

> This allows very efficient power fail testing:
> From the flight recorder output, it is possible to recreate every image
> that might have existed between the start of the recording and the end.
> 
> Obviously, a user space tool is required, it is attached as the last
> mail in the series.

So, to understand this approach better I need to recap.
The "flight recorder" logs every single MTD operation (READ, ERASE, PROGRAM) 
to a file while the MTD is under load, right?

Then you take the log, replay it to a _file_ but instead of replaying
all N MTD operations only N - X operations are replayed?
The output file is later written back to MTDRAM to check how much UBIFS likes 
it?

While having such a tool would be awesome, we have to be very sure that it 
behaves correctly.
Yesterday I spent almost the whole night with staring at some of Manfred's 
images and I'm not sure whether what I see makes sense or can actually happen
on a real NAND or NOR flash. But I'm still investigating.

> Patches:
> 
> 0001-mtdram-expose-write-size-and-writebuf-size-as-module:
> 	An initial cleanup: write_size and writebuf_size are
> 	hardcoded in the source code.
> 	Convert that to module parameters.

MTDRAM is a special purpose MTD simulator, I'm not so sure whether it is a 
good idea to turn it into a NAND-alike zombie.

I said this already some time before, Boris and I are in general unhappy with 
the current MTD simulator zoo in MTD.
But fixing this is not your job, we have to. :-)

Thanks,
//richard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-06 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-06  8:50 [PATCH 0/5] Add flight recorder to MTDRAM Dirk Behme
2017-12-06  8:50 ` [PATCH 1/5] mtdram: expose write size and writebuf size as module parameters Dirk Behme
2017-12-06  8:50 ` [PATCH 2/5] mtdram: Add flight recorder Dirk Behme
2017-12-06  8:50 ` [PATCH 3/5] mtdram: Allow to enable/disable flight recorder mode at runtime Dirk Behme
2017-12-06  8:50 ` [PATCH 4/5] mtdram: Convert the flight recorder to a ring buffer Dirk Behme
2017-12-06  8:50 ` [PATCH 5/5] mtdram flight recorder: Add checksums Dirk Behme
2017-12-06 10:41 ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2017-12-06 19:44   ` [PATCH 0/5] Add flight recorder to MTDRAM Manfred Spraul
2017-12-06 19:59     ` Richard Weinberger
2017-12-06 20:57       ` Richard Weinberger
2017-12-07 16:06         ` Manfred Spraul

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