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From: Pantelis Antoniou <panto@intracom.gr>
To: Russ.Dill@asu.edu
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Cc: Jasmine Strong <jasmine@regolith.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Cram FS on NAND - How to do this?
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:22:24 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EE83840.7000807@intracom.gr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1055359356.896.38.camel@russ>

Russ Dill wrote:

>>I'm talking about a read only filesystem, and generating
>>the bad block info at mount time.
>>
>>Perhaps I could also use some kind of lazy bad block scanning technique
>>in which the list would only be generated up to point where
>>someone requested a read.
>>
>>Well, and if a block goes bad what was written as good there
>>is nothing any filesystem can do but die complaining.
>>    
>>
>
>Bad blocks would be generated at FS creation time, but as time goes on,
>some blocks may start going bad. May not be important for 5 or 6
>devices, but when you go into production with 100+ devices, this would
>become important. Once a block goes bad, but the data is recoverable
>with ECC, you'd want to relocate the block at the end of the FS and note
>it somehow..
>  
>
I am aware of the problem when going into production with a large
number of devices.

I'm not really sure however about how widespread the problem will that be.

Has anybody collected any data on the problem?
How often does it happen to write a block to the chip, verify that it was
written correctly without ecc errors, and then happen to read it
back with one bit error.

>or not:
>
>An index is in each oob, for the first n (where n is the size of the FS)
>blocks, the index is just the block number. After that, if a block is
>found bad while writing the FS, or during usage, that block is rewritten
>past the end of the FS in the "reserve area" with the index number of
>that block.
>
>At mount time, the only scanning that would need to be done is in the
>reserve area.
>
>
Hey, that is clever.
I'll see what I can do..

Regards

Pantelis

  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-12  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-11  8:43 Cram FS on NAND - How to do this? Pantelis Antoniou
2003-06-11  8:51 ` David Woodhouse
2003-06-11  8:58   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2003-06-11  9:04     ` David Woodhouse
2003-06-11  9:10       ` Russ Dill
2003-06-11  9:12         ` David Woodhouse
2003-06-11  9:01 ` Jasmine Strong
2003-06-11  9:54   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2003-06-11 10:24     ` angainor
2003-06-11 19:22     ` Russ Dill
2003-06-12  8:22       ` Pantelis Antoniou [this message]
2003-06-12  9:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2003-06-12  8:15   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2003-06-12 23:13 ` Charles Manning
2003-06-13 12:18   ` Jasmine Strong
2003-06-13 16:30     ` Brian J. Fox
2003-06-13 16:33       ` Jasmine Strong
2003-06-13 16:45         ` Brian J. Fox

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