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From: Zhihao Cheng <chengzhihao1@huawei.com>
To: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
Cc: <richard@nod.at>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<jserv@ccns.ncku.edu.tw>, <eleanor15x@gmail.com>,
	<marscheng@google.com>, <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lib/list_sort: introduce list_sort_nonatomic() and remove dummy cmp() calls
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 21:22:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3fec3dbc-2835-e056-4394-d2dcaae3b80a@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ablJ0pe55s1-AkSh@google.com>

在 2026/3/17 20:32, Kuan-Wei Chiu 写道:
> Hi Zhihao,
> 
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 12:05:54PM +0800, Zhihao Cheng wrote:
>> 在 2026/3/16 3:39, Kuan-Wei Chiu 写道:
>>> Historically, list_sort() implemented a hack in merge_final():
>>>       if (unlikely(!++count))
>>>           cmp(priv, b, b);
>>>
>>> This was designed specifically so that callers could periodically
>>> invoke cond_resched() within their comparison functions when merging
>>> highly unbalanced lists.
>>>
>>> However, an audit of the kernel tree reveals that only fs/ubifs/ relies
>>> on this mechanism. For the vast majority of list_sort() users (such as
>>> block layer IO schedulers and file systems), this results in completely
>>> wasted function calls. In the worst-case scenario (merging an already
>>> sorted list where 'a' is exhausted quickly), this results in
>>> approximately (N/2)/256 unnecessary cmp() calls.
>>>
>>> To clean up this API while ensuring behavior compatibility:
>>> 1. Introduce list_sort_nonatomic(), which explicitly calls
>>>      cond_resched() internally when count overflows.
>>> 2. Remove the dummy cmp(priv, b, b) fallback for standard list_sort(),
>>>      saving unnecessary function calls and improving determinism.
>>> 3. Convert the sole user (fs/ubifs/) to the new API.
>>>
>>> Note that ubifs still maintains cond_resched() inside its own
>>> comparison functions. This patch does not alter the frequency or timing
>>> of those scheduling points, guaranteeing no regressions for ubifs,
>>> while benefiting all other kernel users.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
>>> ---
>>>    fs/ubifs/gc.c             |   4 +-
>>>    fs/ubifs/replay.c         |   2 +-
>>>    include/linux/list_sort.h |   3 +
>>>    lib/list_sort.c           | 166 +++++++++++++++++++++-----------------
>>>    4 files changed, 100 insertions(+), 75 deletions(-)
>>
>> lgtm for UBIFS.
>>
>> Reviewed-by: Zhihao Cheng <chengzhihao1@huawei.com>
> 
> Thanks for your review!
> 
>>
>> one small nit below.
>>
>>>
>> [...]
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/list_sort.h b/include/linux/list_sort.h
>>> index 453105f74e05..f7af29073d48 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/list_sort.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/list_sort.h
>>> @@ -11,4 +11,7 @@ typedef int __attribute__((nonnull(2,3))) (*list_cmp_func_t)(void *,
>>>    __attribute__((nonnull(2,3)))
>>>    void list_sort(void *priv, struct list_head *head, list_cmp_func_t cmp);
>>> +
>>> +__attribute__((nonnull(2, 3)))
>>> +void list_sort_nonatomic(void *priv, struct list_head *head, list_cmp_func_t cmp);
>>>    #endif
>>> diff --git a/lib/list_sort.c b/lib/list_sort.c
>>> index a310ecb7ccc0..788bfc26cf7b 100644
>>> --- a/lib/list_sort.c
>>> +++ b/lib/list_sort.c
>>> @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
>>>    #include <linux/export.h>
>>>    #include <linux/list_sort.h>
>>>    #include <linux/list.h>
>>> +#include <linux/sched.h>
>>>    /*
>>>     * Returns a list organized in an intermediate format suited
>>> @@ -47,7 +48,7 @@ static struct list_head *merge(void *priv, list_cmp_func_t cmp,
>>>     */
>>>    __attribute__((nonnull(2,3,4,5)))
>>>    static void merge_final(void *priv, list_cmp_func_t cmp, struct list_head *head,
>>> -			struct list_head *a, struct list_head *b)
>>> +			struct list_head *a, struct list_head *b, bool may_schedule)
>>>    {
>>>    	struct list_head *tail = head;
>>>    	u8 count = 0;
>>> @@ -79,12 +80,11 @@ static void merge_final(void *priv, list_cmp_func_t cmp, struct list_head *head,
>>>    		/*
>>>    		 * If the merge is highly unbalanced (e.g. the input is
>>>    		 * already sorted), this loop may run many iterations.
>>> -		 * Continue callbacks to the client even though no
>>> -		 * element comparison is needed, so the client's cmp()
>>> -		 * routine can invoke cond_resched() periodically.
>>> +		 * If may_schedule is true, periodically invoke cond_resched()
>>> +		 * to avoid soft lockups.
>>>    		 */
>>> -		if (unlikely(!++count))
>>> -			cmp(priv, b, b);
>>> +		if (may_schedule && unlikely(!++count))
>>> +			cond_resched();
>> The cond_resched() already has a judgment on whether to schedule out, so the
>> 'count' could be removed?
> 
> However, I think keeping the u8 count rate-limiter makes more sense
> here due to the overhead difference.
> 
> Evaluating unlikely(!++count) is essentially a single ALU instruction
> (register increment) and a zero-flag check, which has virtually zero
> cost. On the other hand, cond_resched() is a macro that does much more
> than a simple flag check. Depending on the kernel config, it often
> invokes __might_resched() (which reads current to check task_struct
> states, irq flags, etc.) and makes a call to __cond_resched().
> Evaluating all of this heavy machinery on every single iteration of
> such a tight loop would probably introduce noticeable overhead.
> 
> Actually, your comment brings up another thought I wanted to discuss.
> 
> Since we are introducing list_sort_nonatomic(), I wonder if we should
> eventually move the cond_resched() out of UBIFS's cmp() functions
> entirely and handle it inside list_sort_nonatomic().
> 
> Right now, because the cmp() callback is inherently invoked at every
> step of the merge process, UBIFS ends up evaluating the cond_resched()
> macro every 3 or 4 pointer assignments during the main sort. While
> UBIFS needs to prevent soft lockups on huge lists, checking for resched
> at such a micro-granularity still feels excessive and likely leaves
> performance on the table.

In my humble opinion, I don't think frequent 'cond_resched' calling will 
bring observable performance impact, and there are many examples in 
kernel hotspot paths(eg. 
blk_mq_prealloc_tag_set_tags/blk_rq_poll_completion/__blk_mq_alloc_rq_maps 
...). For list_sort(), I prefer the aim of code cleanup is to make the 
code more readable. I am neutral on code cleanup for the current 
implementation of list_sort.
> 
> I didn't make this change in the current patch because I don't have the
> proper UBIFS hardware/setup to benchmark the performance difference,
> and I wanted to keep the current scheduling frequency exactly the same
> to guarantee no regressions. But I'd love to hear your thoughts on
> whether reducing the frequency and moving it out of UBIFS's cmp() is
> something worth doing in the future.
> 
> Regards,
> Kuan-Wei
> .
> 


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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-15 19:39 [PATCH] lib/list_sort: introduce list_sort_nonatomic() and remove dummy cmp() calls Kuan-Wei Chiu
2026-03-16  7:25 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-16 18:04   ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2026-03-16 21:49     ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-17 14:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-17 14:38       ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-17 14:40         ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-17 16:08           ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2026-03-17  4:05 ` Zhihao Cheng
2026-03-17 12:32   ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2026-03-17 13:22     ` Zhihao Cheng [this message]
2026-03-17 14:15       ` Kuan-Wei Chiu

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