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From: "Artem B. Bityuckiy" <abityuckiy@yandex.ru>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: JFFS2 an nodes checking
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:15:46 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41599C42.4030507@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1096390699.30942.110.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>



David Woodhouse wrote:
> Yeah, but we _know_ we're going to write to the flash when we write to
> regular files. That's not necessarily intuitively true for FIFOs. You
> expect your data to get to the other end of the FIFO... you don't
> necessarily expect anything to be written to the flash.
 >
Josh Boyer wrote:
 > Fifos don't really hold data, they are just named pipes.  When you write
 > to it, it's mostly handled by the VFS.  The actual data isn't written
 > out by JFFS2.  Except that we have to update st_ctime and st_mtime,
 > which causes more nodes.
Yes.. I thought in contents of the optimization I spoke about and tried 
to understand this problem in that context. I spoke about iget() delay. 
But the FIFO issue is another. Ok, thanks for reply!

David Woodhouse wrote:
 > On NOR we can scribble over the old nodes with the old mtime/ctime. On
 > NAND we can't so we end up with lots of nodes which are _potentially_
 > valid and which all have to be compared.
Josh Boyer wrote:
 > Because you can't directly obsolete a node on NAND flash (and some weird
 > versions of NOR flash as well).  So obsolete nodes are actually written
 > out to flash instead of just flipping a bit in the existing node.

Yes, I must have guess this myself. :-)

-- 
Best Regards,
Artem B. Bityuckiy,
St.-Petersburg, Russia.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-28 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-28 12:29 JFFS2 an nodes checking Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-09-28 12:37 ` David Woodhouse
2004-09-28 13:17   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-09-28 13:22     ` David Woodhouse
2004-09-28 13:37       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-09-28 13:45         ` David Woodhouse
2004-09-28 13:57           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-09-28 14:04             ` David Woodhouse
2004-09-28 14:26               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-09-28 14:37                 ` David Woodhouse
2004-09-28 14:58                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-09-28 15:04                     ` David Woodhouse
2004-09-28 14:31               ` Josh Boyer
2004-09-28 14:47                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-09-28 14:58                   ` David Woodhouse
2004-09-28 16:48                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-09-28 16:57                       ` Josh Boyer
2004-09-28 16:58                       ` David Woodhouse
2004-09-28 17:15                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy [this message]
2004-09-28 18:24                         ` Josh Boyer

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