From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from www346.sakura.ne.jp ([202.181.99.66]) by canuck.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.62 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1Fq933-0002o5-EX for linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:35:28 -0400 Message-ID: <448EBF7B.20306@kaigai.gr.jp> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:36:59 +0900 From: KaiGai Kohei MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn_Engel?= Subject: Re: JFFS2/xattr problems. References: <1148150486.3875.251.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <44704CA9.8010604@ak.jp.nec.com> <448CCEC8.2080903@ak.jp.nec.com> <1150099418.11159.44.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <448D3752.3090605@ak.jp.nec.com> <1150105995.8184.17.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20060612180653.GA17177@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> In-Reply-To: <20060612180653.GA17177@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, David Woodhouse , KaiGai Kohei List-Id: Linux MTD discussion mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hi, Jörn > Seems you missed Ted's presentation at LCA this year. Among the > interesting bits: If this presentation is public, could you tell me the URL? This indication is highly suggestive for me. Especially, I have not imagine yet the possibility that malware uses xattr to hide itself. Thanks, > o Pretty much anything on Linux is limited to 64KiB or less. > o Ext[23] is limited to 4KiB total for all attributes, including all > keys and all values. > o The biggest user of Alternate Streams (less-limited versions of > xattr on Windows, Solaris, etc.) arguably is root kits. Alternate > Streams have the advantage that tripwire etc. don't understand them > and won't look for malware there. > o Some system administrators have no plans to upgrade to Solaris 9 > ever, because it supports Alternate Streams. The trouble of hidden > malware is not worth the gains. > > Notable was also, that Ted repeated the last two points in several > variations. Not sure if I would follow his line of thought 100%, but > he does have a point. > > Jörn -- KaiGai Kohei