From: Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>
To: Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>
Cc: carsteno@de.ibm.com, dhowells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
"Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>,
"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][MTD] mtdpart.c: allow other drivers to get physical address of partition
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:53:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46B18D89.1010207@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6934efce0708011337g32169212v329c778bb7700aea@mail.gmail.com>
Jared Hulbert wrote:
> References to what? pages? pfn's?
Currently we use struct page in our address space operation, but
moving to pfn seems advisable to me.
> Assume we need to erase a block, this definately requires that all
> pages in that block be 'zapped'.
True.
> With most flashes the erase operation takes chunks of the array larger
> than the effected block offline temporarily. Right now XIP support in
> MTD just spins waiting for an interrupt. When one is recieved the
> erase is suspended and normal execution continues with just the block
> being erased in an unknown state. Then when the coast is clear the
> erase is resumed.
That does'nt work on smp machines, does it? Sounds like a hack to me.
> So we have a large number of pages that are not being changed but that
> are not availiable for some time. I think it would be much better to
> identify those pages that will be taken offline and change the page
> tables such that a fault can be directed to the FS and then to the MTD
> to do the suspend.
>
> The reason would be fault avoidance. See once the erase completes all
> the old valid pages should be mapped back as they were. Why not allow
> the kernel to continue (assuming it isn't taken offline!) executing as
> normal and why interrupt the erase until you know for sure you need to
> access effected pages?
How do you know a user app that has a valid pte to your flash media
accesses it? Userspace may do so at any time it wants, and as far as I
understand Joerns and Davids explanations on flash it will just see
invalid data rather than raising a page fault.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-02 7:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-27 0:04 [PATCH][MTD] mtdpart.c: allow other drivers to get physical address of partition Jared Hulbert
2007-07-27 13:48 ` Jörn Engel
2007-07-27 17:05 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-07-27 17:44 ` Jörn Engel
2007-07-27 20:53 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-07-28 11:43 ` Jörn Engel
2007-07-28 21:08 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-07-31 11:55 ` David Woodhouse
2007-07-31 19:55 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-01 11:55 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 1:56 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-03 3:01 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 5:23 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-03 9:21 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 6:42 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-03 12:47 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 22:29 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-01 12:18 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-01 12:59 ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-01 20:37 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-01 23:31 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-02 7:53 ` Carsten Otte [this message]
2007-08-02 21:55 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-03 7:59 ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-03 9:17 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 11:03 ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-03 11:31 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 12:21 ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-03 12:58 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 13:09 ` David Woodhouse
2007-08-03 13:18 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 19:45 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-03 23:02 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-04 12:33 ` David Woodhouse
2007-08-04 17:47 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-06 6:30 ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-03 18:39 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-06 6:23 ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-01 18:03 ` Jared Hulbert
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