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From: Phillip Lougher <phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: cotte@de.ibm.com, linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
	nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>,
	Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	tim.bird@am.sony.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] AXFS: axfs_inode.c
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:08:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48AEF2A3.7020905@lougher.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200808221200.26052.arnd@arndb.de>

Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Friday 22 August 2008, Phillip Lougher wrote:
>>> This looks very nice, but could use some comments about how the data is
>>> actually stored on disk. It took me some time to figure out that it actually
>>> allows to do tail merging into compressed blocks, which I was about to suggest
>>> you implement ;-). Cramfs doesn't have them, and I found that they are the
>>> main reason why squashfs compresses better than cramfs, besides the default
>>> block size, which you can change on either one.
>> Squashfs has much larger block sizes than cramfs (last time I looked it 
>> was limited to 4K blocks), and it compresses the metadata which helps to 
>> get better compression.  But tail merging (fragments in Squashfs 
>> terminology) is obviously a major reason why Squashfs gets good compression.
> 
> The *default* block size in cramfs is smaller than in squashfs, but they both
> have user selectable block sizes. I found the impact of compressed metadata
> to be almost zero. 

Squashfs stores significantly more metadata than cramfs.  Remember 
cramfs has no support for filesystems > ~ 16Mbytes, no inode timestamps, 
truncates uid/gids, no hard-links, no nlink counts, no hashed 
directories,  no unique inode numbers.  If Squashfs didn't compress the 
metadata it would be significantly larger than cramfs.

Cheers

Phillip

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-22 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-21  5:45 [PATCH 04/10] AXFS: axfs_inode.c Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21  8:35 ` Carsten Otte
2008-08-21 11:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 12:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 15:06   ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 15:12     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-22  2:22   ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22  3:23     ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22  3:29       ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 10:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-22 17:08       ` Phillip Lougher [this message]
2008-08-22 17:19         ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-22 18:04           ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22  0:21 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22  3:27   ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22  3:46     ` Phillip Lougher

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