From: Matthieu CASTET <matthieu.castet@parrot.com>
To: Shmulik Ladkani <shmulik.ladkani@gmail.com>
Cc: Ricard Wanderlof <ricard.wanderlof@axis.com>,
Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>,
Ivan Djelic <ivan.djelic@parrot.com>,
Mike Dunn <mikedunn@newsguy.com>,
"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] MTD: Change meaning of -EUCLEAN return code on reads
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:50:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F66F36E.9010102@parrot.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120318100000.336c347d@pixies.home.jungo.com>
Hi,
Shmulik Ladkani a écrit :
> Hi Mike,
>
> The only immediate blocker for such a scheme would be those nand
> controller drivers, where the controller is responsible of the ECC
> correction, and it does not report per-step stats to the software.
> Are there any?
> (In that case, we have nothing else to do besides falling back to a
> per-page decision. For example, such driver's 'read_page' may return
> total_corrected_per_page/ecc.steps as an estimate of the number of
> per-step corrected bits, or alike)
No, they should return the worst case : max(total_corrected_per_page, ecc.strength).
Otherwise you have the same problem : case 2 in [1] will fail.
It is better to trigger false positive (do scrubbing) than having uncorrectable
error.
Matthieu
[1]
Consider the following situation:
- a NAND device with 2kB pages and 4 ecc steps per page (4 x 512 bytes)
- the driver has chip->ecc.strength = 4, and therefore mtd->ecc_strength = 16
- let's say mtd->bitflip_threshold = 16
The driver read() method could return a non-negative integer, say 4, in at least
the following cases:
1. During a single page read, each of the 4 ecc steps corrected 1 bit, with a
total variation of ecc_stats.corrected equal to 4.
=> no cleaning needed
2. During a single page read, 1 ecc step corrected 4 bits, the 3 other steps had
no correction to perform, with a total variation of ecc_stats.corrected equal
to 4.
=> cleaning is needed
In both cases, you will compare the same value 4 to mtd->bitflip_threshold (16)
and decide to return 0 (and not -EUCLEAN).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-19 8:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-15 17:25 [PATCH 0/3] MTD: Change meaning of -EUCLEAN return code on reads Mike Dunn
2012-03-15 17:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] MTD: expose ecc_strength through sysfs Mike Dunn
2012-03-15 17:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] MTD: bitflip_threshold added to mtd_info and sysfs Mike Dunn
2012-03-16 16:31 ` Ivan Djelic
2012-03-15 17:25 ` [PATCH 3/3] MTD: drivers return max_bitflips, mtd returns -EUCLEAN Mike Dunn
2012-03-16 11:19 ` [PATCH 0/3] MTD: Change meaning of -EUCLEAN return code on reads Ivan Djelic
2012-03-16 12:49 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-03-16 16:30 ` Mike Dunn
2012-03-16 16:25 ` Mike Dunn
2012-03-16 18:43 ` Ivan Djelic
2012-03-17 20:18 ` Mike Dunn
2012-03-18 8:00 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-03-19 8:50 ` Matthieu CASTET [this message]
2012-03-19 9:29 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-03-19 19:09 ` Mike Dunn
[not found] ` <20120319211835.1073a491@halley>
2012-03-20 1:27 ` Mike Dunn
2012-03-30 14:21 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-03-31 2:03 ` Mike Dunn
2012-03-30 14:16 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-03-31 1:23 ` Mike Dunn
2012-03-30 14:19 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-03-16 21:54 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-03-16 22:57 ` Peter Barada
2012-03-17 21:10 ` Mike Dunn
2012-03-17 20:50 ` Mike Dunn
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