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From: Mike Dunn <mikedunn@newsguy.com>
To: computersforpeace@gmail.com
Cc: "linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mtd: nand: add OOB argument to NAND {read, write}_page interfaces
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:50:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F904238.4070600@newsguy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN8TOE8d8w6EQZkF8hgBqzgY-Q80gb=wSwUijFjt2sq+7mqC8g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Brian,

On 04/17/2012 08:44 PM, Brian Norris wrote:

> Now, in future revisions of this ASIC, it may be possible to access
> OOB via DMA as well, but even if this happens, it doesn't make a lot
> of sense on this hardware to *always* pull OOB data. 


No, it doesn't.  In fact, I'm not aware of any code within or on top of mtd that
does anything with the oob data when a page is read.  If oob is needed,
mtd_read_oob() is used.  Coincidentally, I recxently discovered that my docg4
driver is technically broken because I don't fill the chip->oob_poi buffer when
I read a page, but it never caused a problem with UBI/ubifs.  And the mtdutils
are fine because mtdchar requires use of an ioctl for oob access, and the
handler for this ioctl uses mtd_read_oob().


> As mentioned
> previously, most normal applications (i.e., UBI(FS)) don't need to
> access this OOB data at all, so it seems silly to go to extra work to
> have the DMA controller return it to the MTD/NAND layers. I'm not
> familiar with the OOB/ECC schemes on enough other hardware to
> determine whether other drivers could make use of this same
> optimization. It would require hardware with internal buffers for
> error correction and an access mode that easily returns page data
> only...


The Freescale nand controllers might fall into this category.  Hardware handles
error detction *and* correction, so there's no need to read the oob at all if
it's not needed.  And fsl_ifc_nand was just mainlined, BTW.

Thanks,
Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-19 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-16 22:35 [PATCH 0/2] mtd: nand: rework nand_ecc_ctrl interface for OOB Brian Norris
2012-04-16 22:35 ` [PATCH 1/2] mtd: nand: add OOB argument to NAND {read, write}_page interfaces Brian Norris
2012-04-17  7:50   ` Matthieu CASTET
2012-04-18  3:44     ` Brian Norris
2012-04-19 16:50       ` Mike Dunn [this message]
2012-04-19 22:06         ` Brian Norris
2012-04-20  1:10           ` Jon Povey
2012-04-20 16:25             ` Mike Dunn
2012-04-20 19:19               ` Brian Norris
2012-04-20 16:17           ` Mike Dunn
2012-04-22  7:58           ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-04-23  9:14             ` Bastian Hecht
2012-04-23 17:14               ` Mike Dunn
2012-04-24  6:02               ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-04-25 13:17                 ` Bastian Hecht
2012-04-17 14:29   ` [PATCH 1/2] mtd: nand: add OOB argument to NAND {read,write}_page interfaces Shmulik Ladkani
2012-04-18  4:11     ` [PATCH 1/2] mtd: nand: add OOB argument to NAND {read, write}_page interfaces Brian Norris
2012-04-18  7:56   ` Bastian Hecht
2012-04-18  9:37     ` Bastian Hecht
2012-04-18 16:22       ` Brian Norris
2012-04-19  9:26         ` Bastian Hecht
2012-04-16 22:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] mtd: nand: nand_do_{read, write}_ops - pass OOB buffer through Brian Norris
2012-04-18 11:52   ` [PATCH 2/2] mtd: nand: nand_do_{read,write}_ops " Shmulik Ladkani
2012-04-18 16:13     ` [PATCH 2/2] mtd: nand: nand_do_{read, write}_ops " Brian Norris
2012-04-18 19:43       ` [PATCH 2/2] mtd: nand: nand_do_{read,write}_ops " Shmulik Ladkani
2012-04-25 14:16 ` [PATCH 0/2] mtd: nand: rework nand_ecc_ctrl interface for OOB Artem Bityutskiy
2012-04-25 18:26   ` Brian Norris

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