From: Angus CLARK <angus.clark@st.com>
To: Shmulik Ladkani <shmulik.ladkani@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, dedekind1@gmail.com
Subject: Re: mtd nand erase and bad block
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:03:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FC8CBA7.6000702@st.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120601140445.346e322e@halley>
Hi Shmulik,
>>>
>>> Typically, debugfs is only enabled in development environments, and even then it
>>> requires explicit user action, so this method of enabling erasing bad blocks is
>>> safe enough for our needs.
>>
>> Sounds ok to me, especially if you send the patch together with a piece
>> of doc for the mtd web-site. I just think it is important to document
>> this feature. Is this doable?
>
> I think we should prefer a local "allow erase bad blocks" policy than a
> global one.
>
> This is because when the global debugfs flag is on, *every* mtd erase
> operation might lead to erasure of bad blocks - not necessarily those
> triggered by the user which set the flag prior issuing his 'flash_erase'
> command.
>
> Meaning, other MTD users (ubi, various ffs) which currently work on
> other mtd partitions, are suddenly relaxed and allowed to erase bad
> blocks - which is probably not what user intented.
>
> I suggest to be more restrictive and have the "allow erase bad blocks"
> propery be local policy, that is - per an erase request.
>
> And since we'll probably need this thing only for userspace erase
> calls (e.g. flash_erase) - I suggest placing it into the MEMERASE ioctl.
>
> Comments?
>
I would agree to some extent. Enabling the "allow erase bad blocks" option per
erase request would certainly be a safer solution. However, I suspect extending
the existing MEMERASE/MEMERASE64 IOCTLs is not really an option. That leaves
inventing another IOCTL, or perhaps adding another file mode, which would
achieve per-file-descriptor scope, if not per-erase-request.
My approach was largely motivated by the desire not to change the existing ABI,
and/or mtd-utils. One could argue that such an option should only ever be
enabled by someone who knows what they are doing, and that might include things
like un-mounting any filesystems beforehand.
To be honest, I am in two minds. The solution I have at present is very simple
(or perhaps naive!), requires minimial changes to the kernel, no changes to
mtd-utils, and can be disabled completely by not including debugfs (which is
standard practice on production systems). On the other hand, the ability to
enable per-erase-request is a safer and more elegant solution. However, it
would require updates to mtd-utils, and agreement from the MTD community
regarding changes to the ABI...
What do you think?
Cheers,
Angus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-01 14:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-31 12:12 mtd nand erase and bad block Matteo Facchinetti
2012-05-31 13:28 ` Adrian Hunter
2012-05-31 14:28 ` Matteo Facchinetti
2012-05-31 19:57 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-06-01 6:24 ` Adrian Hunter
2012-06-01 6:37 ` Ricard Wanderlof
2012-06-01 8:29 ` Angus CLARK
2012-06-01 8:42 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-01 11:04 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-06-01 14:03 ` Angus CLARK [this message]
2012-06-01 14:54 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-06-01 15:28 ` Angus CLARK
2012-06-05 12:17 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-14 17:48 ` Brian Norris
2012-06-14 21:31 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-06-15 6:55 ` Angus CLARK
2012-06-26 22:10 ` Tomer Barletz
2012-06-18 9:34 ` Angus CLARK
2012-06-27 9:54 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-27 12:37 ` Angus CLARK
2012-06-29 10:31 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-02 7:14 ` Angus CLARK
2012-07-03 12:22 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-03 15:05 ` Angus CLARK
2012-07-16 14:37 ` Artem Bityutskiy
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