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From: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
To: Shmulik Ladkani <shmulik.ladkani@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Mike Dunn <mikedunn@newsguy.com>,
	dedekind1@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mtd: nand: ignore ecc errors during bbt reads
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:53:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FD595E5.6070309@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120611094117.73145dda@pixies.home.jungo.com>

On 06/10/2012 11:41 PM, Shmulik Ladkani wrote:
> Thanks Brian for your comments,

You're welcome. And thanks for the interest in reviewing the code. Few 
people actually delve into nand_bbt.c, it seems :)

> On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:45:50 -0700 Brian Norris<computersforpeace@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> Why not use 'MTD_OPS_RAW' in 'scan_block_fast()' as well (as done in
>>> 'scan_block_full')?
>>
>> Because when ECC is available on OOB, it is good to utilize it, so
>> that bitflips don't cause good blocks to be marked bad. Less
>> importantly, when bad block markers are written by Linux (with ECC),
>> then these markers can be read back more reliably.
>
> Ok (due to the second reason, as we're discussing the BBM read
> implementation).

I guess I worded my 'first' reason a little wrong. I meant: so that 
bitflips don't cause good blocks (0xff) to be read as bad blocks 
(bitflip => non-0xff). I think this would be far more significant, as a 
single bitflip in the BBM byte could cause errors.

>> So, I can send a patch that straightens out naming and brings
>> scan_block_fast() and scan_block_full() into alignment on using
>> MTD_OPS_PLACE_OOB. Then I think that we should continue using this
>> code in both:
>>                  /* Ignore ECC errors when checking for BBM */
>>                  if (ret&&  !mtd_is_bitflip_or_eccerr(ret))
>
> Sounds reasonable.

OK, I'll do that this week.

>> And we can (as agreed previously?) avoid using/checking max_bitflips
>> in mtd_read_oob(), although there is the datbuf+oob case that calls
>> nand_do_read_ops...
>
> This is a separate thing that needs to be addressed.
> See my findings in [1].

Right, I saw both threads kinda simultaneously. It looks like Mike may 
need to add some max_bitflips logic to mtd_read_oob after all.

Brian

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-11  6:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-07 18:32 [PATCH] mtd: nand: ignore ecc errors during bbt reads Mike Dunn
2012-06-10 11:50 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-06-11  5:45   ` Brian Norris
2012-06-11  6:41     ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-06-11  6:53       ` Brian Norris [this message]
2012-06-12 10:37     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-12 13:23     ` Mike Dunn

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