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From: hujianyang <hujianyang@huawei.com>
To: Steve deRosier <derosier@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	Sheng Yong <shengyong1@huawei.com>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] UBIFS recovery
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 11:09:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54D824D7.90902@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALupW3CQ3YCvdx_tNeDGVo9cVTcmACyqsMRpr8+P2_4jwGgZMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Steve,

On 2015/2/5 23:08, Steve deRosier wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:47 AM, hujianyang <hujianyang@huawei.com> wrote:
>> There are two ways for UBIFS recovery. One is repairing UBIFS image
>> in userspace via UBI interfaces, the other is repairing the corrupted
>> data during mount by default or via a special mount option.
>>
>> The userspace tool is the most effective way to repair a partition.
>> It could have enough time and resource to whole scan the target and
>> cleanup the corrupted while the file-system offline. But it's hard
>> to program: many structures and functions in kernel need to be copied
>> into this utility, current ubi-utils focus mostly on UBI device, not
>> UBIFS, and the subsequent updating of file-system should consider the
>> userspace tool. It's too complicated.
>>
> 
> I hear (and agree with) several valid arguments for a tool in
> userspace. And I'd like to throw my support towards an in-driver
> solution. 

Thanks~!

> Flash filesystems are different than on-disk filesystems, in
> particular in their usecase: they're generally both critical and
> exclusive to embedded systems. As such, the entire filesystem might be
> on the corrupted UBIFS, so even if the filesystem is recoverable, if
> we can't mount it and get at the userspace tool, then we're toast.
> Often the kernel itself is stored in a separate read-only partition as
> a blob directly on the flash, and thus the kernel itself would be
> fine. The better UBI & UBIFS can recover to a usable state in-kernel,
> the better off we are I think.
> 
> Just my thoughts on the matter.
> 
> - Steve
> 
> .
> 

I think it's a good standpoint you are providing. It's a problem like
filesystem dirver and filesystem partition. But it may not only exit
in UBIFS. A good user configuration is always needed to solve problems
like this.

Maybe an acceptable solution is mount the filesystem R/O first and then
perform other recoveries.

Thanks,
Hu

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-09  3:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-05  9:47 [RFC] UBIFS recovery hujianyang
2015-02-05 13:09 ` shengyong
2015-02-06 17:21   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-05 15:08 ` Steve deRosier
2015-02-05 23:36   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09 12:08     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-06 17:26   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-06 17:33     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-06 17:40       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-06 17:43         ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09  3:00           ` hujianyang
2015-02-09  7:56             ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09  8:26               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-09 11:04                 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09 11:36                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-09 11:48                     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09  2:48       ` hujianyang
2015-02-09  3:09   ` hujianyang [this message]
2015-02-06 17:02 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-09  2:34   ` hujianyang
2015-02-09  7:51     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-09  7:57       ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09 10:38         ` hujianyang
2015-02-09 11:05           ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09 11:23             ` hujianyang
2015-02-09 11:18           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-09 12:02             ` hujianyang
2015-02-09 12:12           ` Ricard Wanderlof
2015-02-09 12:38             ` hujianyang

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