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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: hujianyang <hujianyang@huawei.com>
Cc: Steve deRosier <derosier@gmail.com>,
	linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	Sheng Yong <shengyong1@huawei.com>,
	dedekind1@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] UBIFS recovery
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 08:56:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54D86819.90803@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54D822B0.8020605@huawei.com>

Am 09.02.2015 um 04:00 schrieb hujianyang:
>> This is what fsck.ubifs should to. I was talking about a debugfs.ubifs which
>> is able to extract files, ask questions, and tell the user what exactly is going
>> wrong. Like "yes, I can dump you file /foo/bar.dat but rage 5m to 10m maybe be corrupted and the xattrs are gone".
>>
> 
> Er, maybe I know what you mean.
> 
> So you think by debugfs.ubifs, we could get wanted file out from a partition
> without mounting it? and do other things like (?)

This is the use case of a debugfs. See debugfs.ext2/3/4, etc...
You can debug (analyze, get files your, etc...) from a broken filesystem
without mounting it.

> Moving less files out maybe simpler than mounting the whole partition in some
> cases. But is it acceptable for scripts? If someone want to perform some binary
> files on the corrupted ubifs. I think mounting a R/O partition is better than
> moving the request file out and then run it.

Scripts?
debugfs is meant for _manual_ forensics/recovery.
Mounting R/O is not always an option, we cannot make UBIFS that smart that you
can always turn it into a state where you can safely get everything out of it.
And as I wrote in a previous mail, the interaction between kernel and user is almost zero.
Debugfs can ask questions and give you a much better overall overview of the filesystem.
This is exactly why debugfs was invented. You can also manually fix/transform the filesystem...

Thanks,
//richard

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-09  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-05  9:47 [RFC] UBIFS recovery hujianyang
2015-02-05 13:09 ` shengyong
2015-02-06 17:21   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-05 15:08 ` Steve deRosier
2015-02-05 23:36   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09 12:08     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-06 17:26   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-06 17:33     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-06 17:40       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-06 17:43         ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09  3:00           ` hujianyang
2015-02-09  7:56             ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2015-02-09  8:26               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-09 11:04                 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09 11:36                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-09 11:48                     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09  2:48       ` hujianyang
2015-02-09  3:09   ` hujianyang
2015-02-06 17:02 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-09  2:34   ` hujianyang
2015-02-09  7:51     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-09  7:57       ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09 10:38         ` hujianyang
2015-02-09 11:05           ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-09 11:23             ` hujianyang
2015-02-09 11:18           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-02-09 12:02             ` hujianyang
2015-02-09 12:12           ` Ricard Wanderlof
2015-02-09 12:38             ` hujianyang

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