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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Johannes Bauer <weolanwaybqm@spornkuller.de>
Cc: "linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Wear-leveling peculiarities
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 22:47:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <555A4FFB.5040006@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <555A4D38.3070702@spornkuller.de>

Am 18.05.2015 um 22:36 schrieb Johannes Bauer:
> On 18.05.2015 19:58, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> 
>> Wear-leveling is done on UBI and UBIFS.
>> What is CONFIG_MTD_UBI_WL_THRESHOLD set to?
> 
> Ooops. I honestly don't know, will check this out tomorrow. I must admit
> that I wasn't aware of this setting at all.
> 
>> >From the Kconfig help:
>>           This parameter defines the maximum difference between the highest
>>           erase counter value and the lowest erase counter value of eraseblocks
>>           of UBI devices. When this threshold is exceeded, UBI starts performing
>>           wear leveling by means of moving data from eraseblock with low erase
>>           counter to eraseblocks with high erase counter.
>>
>>           The default value should be OK for SLC NAND flashes, NOR flashes and
>>           other flashes which have eraseblock life-cycle 100000 or more.
>>           However, in case of MLC NAND flashes which typically have eraseblock
>>           life-cycle less than 10000, the threshold should be lessened (e.g.,
>>           to 128 or 256, although it does not have to be power of 2)
>>
>> I suspect that your threshold was never reached.
> 
> Yes, I suspect you're right here.

If you did not set CONFIG_MTD_UBI_WL_THRESHOLD it is 4096.
So, regular wear-leveling did never happen.

>> >From your provided graph it looks like all erase block have been
>> erased t most 300 times.
>> If your NAND starts dying after 300 erases you're in trouble.
> 
> And I fear you're right here as well :-(
> 
> Although there's no definitive saying how many page writes the failed
> units had because the defective sectors are so broken that the kernel
> barfs out I/O errors. That means I can't even read the OOB metadata.

The OOB-Data does not matter. UBI is not using OOB.

So, you have to figure out why UBIFS is dying. Maybe it is a NAND issue.

Thanks,
//richard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-18 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-18 13:53 Wear-leveling peculiarities Johannes Bauer
2015-05-18 14:09 ` Johannes Bauer
2015-05-18 17:58   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-18 17:59     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-18 20:38     ` Johannes Bauer
     [not found]     ` <555A4D38.3070702@spornkuller.de>
2015-05-18 20:47       ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2015-05-26  9:38         ` Johannes Bauer
2015-05-26 10:08           ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-26 11:14             ` Johannes Bauer
2015-05-26 16:19               ` Jeff Lauruhn (jlauruhn)
2015-05-26 16:24                 ` Johannes Bauer
2015-05-26 16:29                   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-26 18:20               ` Ezequiel Garcia
2015-05-19  9:17 ` valent.turkovic
2015-05-26  9:43   ` Johannes Bauer

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