From: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
To: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
"linux-spi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
hramrach@gmail.com, martin@sperl.org
Subject: Re: RfC: Handle SPI controller limitations like maximum message length
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 07:59:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <564EC4E0.90602@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151120000226.GP64635@google.com>
Am 20.11.2015 um 01:02 schrieb Brian Norris:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:19:29PM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
>> There have been few discussions in the past about how to handle SPI controller
>> limitations like max message length. However they don't seem to have resulted
>> in accepted patches yet.
>> I also stumbled across this topic because I own a device using Freescale's
>> ESPI which has a 64K message size limitation.
>>
>> At least one agreed fact is that silently assembling chunks in protocol
>> drivers is not the preferred approach.
>
> Hmm, are you referring to this sort of approach [1], where the
> spi_message::acutal_length informs the spi_nor layer that the transfer
> was truncated?
>
> [1] [PATCH v4 7/7] mtd: spi-nor: add read loop
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2015-August/061062.html
>
>> Maybe a better approach would be to introduce a new member of spi_master
>> dealing with controller limitations.
>> My issue is just the message size limitation but most likely there are more
>> and different limitations in other controllers.
>>
>> I'd introduce a struct spi_controller_restrictions and add a member to spi_master
>> pointing to such a struct. Then a controller driver could do something like this:
>>
>> static const struct spi_controller_restrictions fsl_espi_restrictions = {
>> .max_msg_size = 0xffff,
>> };
>>
>> master->restrictions = &fsl_espi_restrictions;
>
> OK, so I think Mark suggested we not move to a 'restrictions' struct,
> but otherwise it doesn't sound like he's opposed to this.
>
That's how I read his comments too.
>> I also add an example how a protocol driver could use this extension.
>> Appreciate any comment.
>
> One question I have: is it necessary to push the handling out into the
> protocol driver? I feel like I've seen a partial answer to this: the
> 'actual_legnth' return field suggests that the protocol driver already
> has to deal with shorter-than-desired transfers.
>
> Then I have another one: is the 'actual_length' field really
> insufficient? For instance, is it non-kosher for a spi_master to just
> cutoff the message at (for instance) 64K, and expect the protocol
> driver to handle that (e.g., with Michal's patch from [1])? And if that
> is kosher, then is there a good reason for the protocol driver to know
> the exact maximum for its spi_master?
>
It would be sufficient if it's a valid case that spi_master returns 0
and an actual_length < requested_length as this is some kind of error
situation.
I could also fully understand if spi_master doesn't return 0 but
-EMSGSIZE in such a case.
And the suggested patch would bail out of the chunk-assembling loop
once it get's an error from the SPI transfer
(after applying patch 2 of the series which introduces checking
the return code of the spi_sync call in m25p80_read).
> [snip example]
>
> Brian
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-20 7:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-18 21:19 RfC: Handle SPI controller limitations like maximum message length Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-18 21:57 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-18 22:50 ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-19 11:40 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-19 15:00 ` Martin Sperl
2015-11-19 17:15 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-20 0:07 ` Brian Norris
2015-11-20 11:06 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-20 11:16 ` Martin Sperl
2015-11-20 10:18 ` Martin Sperl
2015-11-20 12:05 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-20 12:56 ` Martin Sperl
2015-11-21 13:49 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-21 14:10 ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-21 15:57 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-11-21 22:59 ` [PATCH 0/3] spi: mtd: Handle HW message length restrictions Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-21 23:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] spi: core: add max_msg_size to spi_master Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-22 13:16 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-22 16:15 ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-23 11:38 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-27 19:26 ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-30 16:42 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-30 20:15 ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-21 23:08 ` [PATCH 2/3] mtd: m25p80: handle HW message size restrictions Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-22 12:51 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-11-21 23:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] spi: fsl-espi: make use of max_msg_size in spi_master to handle HW restrictions Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-30 20:24 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] spi: core: add max_msg_size to spi_master Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-30 20:25 ` [PATCH resubmit 2/2] spi: fsl-espi: make use of max_msg_size in spi_master to handle HW restrictions Heiner Kallweit
2015-12-01 14:19 ` Mark Brown
2015-12-01 18:53 ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-22 13:19 ` RfC: Handle SPI controller limitations like maximum message length Mark Brown
2015-11-20 0:02 ` Brian Norris
2015-11-20 6:59 ` Heiner Kallweit [this message]
2015-11-20 10:06 ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-20 12:35 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-20 18:59 ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-20 19:05 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-11-20 19:21 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-20 19:44 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-11-20 23:22 ` Brian Norris
2015-11-21 22:53 ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-20 19:18 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-20 19:37 ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-20 12:31 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-20 12:56 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-11-20 23:07 ` Brian Norris
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