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From: Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>
To: "Artem B. Bityuckiy" <dedekind@infradead.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	MTD List <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: JFFS3 & performance
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:30:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6934efce0501121430471e55a8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0501121708100.10617@phoenix.infradead.org>

> > Clarification on NOR technology.  Remember that the ability to run
> > code XIP is effectively a requirement for a NOR chip.  This means no
> > read errors can leave the chip.  I don't see this changing in the
> > foreseeable future.  Any read errors that do occur would probably be
> > caused by a failed/incomplete program
> >
> > We probably do want to be able to easily retire, reprogram, and/or
> > test those blocks/pages that get read errors.  That would have to be
> > done in the filesystem and the chip driver needs to be able report a
> > read error occured.
> 
> What would you conclude from this (in the context of disscussion)? That
> CRC *must* be *always* checked in case of NOR?

Retiring blocks/pages was an idea for the more lossy flash NAND, AND
etc.  If your media goes bad with NOR you probably can't boot anyway.

I'm thinking the opposite conclusion.  If I understand this correctly
most CRC's on NOR are wasted effort.  I don't claim to quite
understand JFFS2 architecture yet but it seems to me the data CRC's
are not needed for NOR, perhaps some of the other CRC's are not needed
as well.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-12 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 196+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-11 12:29 JFFS3 & performance Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-11 14:37 ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-11 21:51 ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12  0:06   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 16:59     ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 17:37       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 18:17         ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12  9:15   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 16:41     ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-12 17:02       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 17:06         ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 17:11           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 17:22         ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-12 17:28           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 17:34           ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 17:45             ` Dan Post
2005-01-12 17:52               ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 17:14       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 22:30         ` Jared Hulbert [this message]
2005-01-12 22:43           ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-12 22:55             ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-13 15:50               ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-13 18:30                 ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-13 18:36                   ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-13 19:06                     ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 19:22                     ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-13 18:55                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 19:10                     ` Brian Fox
2005-01-13 19:23                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-28  6:08                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-13  7:54             ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-13  8:25           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:09           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:10     ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 18:40         ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:42           ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 18:43           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 19:16           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 19:44             ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 19:53               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 20:06                 ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:33       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 18:43         ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:45           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 18:58             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 19:50               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 14:49   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:05     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:17       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 15:22         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:40           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 15:49             ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-13 15:53               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 16:13               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 16:16                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 16:21                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 16:22                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 16:21                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-14 13:46                   ` Jamey Hicks
2005-01-14 14:16                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-18 15:50                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2005-01-19 13:07                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-19 15:24                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-19 15:27                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-19 15:32                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-19 15:51                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-19 16:31                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-19 19:58                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 14:35                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 14:37                                     ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-20 14:40                                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 15:05                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 15:27                                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 15:37                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 16:13                                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 16:31                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 16:41                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 17:08                                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 17:33                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 17:57                                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-21 12:44                                                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 13:13                                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-21 13:42                                                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 13:52                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-21 14:00                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 14:04                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-25 10:51                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-25 10:56                                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-25 11:13                                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 14:30                                                     ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-21 22:33                                     ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-21 22:46                                   ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-21 23:54                                     ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-22 13:03                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-22 22:04                                       ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-23 10:03                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-23 10:08                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-23 11:04                                           ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-23 11:55                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-16 13:20 Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 14:27 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-16 14:45   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 14:50     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-16 15:00       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 17:53     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 18:42       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-16 19:15         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 19:49           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 19:58             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 20:46               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 20:02             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 20:37               ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-16 20:51                 ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 21:02                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-16 21:06                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 21:22                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 22:06                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-17 10:25                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 10:44                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-17 10:56                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-17 10:46                               ` jasmine
2004-12-17 11:01                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-17 11:19                                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:09                                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 16:26                                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:52                                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 11:10                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-17 11:20                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 13:36                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 14:03                                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 14:44                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 15:14                                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 15:25                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 16:08                                             ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 20:22                                             ` xemc
2004-12-22 20:43                                               ` xemc
2004-12-22 20:49                                                 ` Jasmine Strong
2004-12-22 15:30                                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 15:37                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 15:47                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 15:56                                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 16:09                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 16:17                                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 16:43                                                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 16:46                                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 17:26                                                       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 18:14                                                         ` xemc
2004-12-22 18:20                                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-23 13:52                                                           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-23 17:02                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 11:10                                                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 11:09                                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-07 11:27                                                                   ` jasmine
2005-01-07 11:43                                                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:23                                                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:27                                                                         ` jasmine
2005-01-07 14:33                                                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:37                                                                             ` jasmine
2005-01-07 14:43                                                                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:55                                                                                 ` jasmine
2005-01-07 15:20                                                                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 15:24                                                                                     ` jasmine
2005-01-07 15:28                                                                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 15:31                                                                                         ` jasmine
2005-01-07 15:32                                                                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 17:57                                                                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:50                                                                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:31                                                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-06 10:08                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-08 20:14                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-09 11:39                                                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-10 14:24                                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 15:59                                                 ` jasmine
2004-12-22 16:19                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 16:21                                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 15:56                                             ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 16:39                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 17:33                                                 ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 11:20                               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 12:23                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-21 14:45       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-21 16:03         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 11:33 ` David Vrabel
2004-12-17 15:34   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:14   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 16:25     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:39       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 17:10     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 17:19       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 17:51         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 17:59           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 18:13             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-19  3:05               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 18:09           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-21 14:38 ` Jörn Engel

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