From: "Chuck Lever" <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: "Neil Brown" <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Reinstate NFS exportability for JFFS2.
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:15:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <76bd70e30808031015l36db41bexf319e85ba7acc4e9@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18581.40178.976747.769343@notabene.brown>
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
> On Saturday August 2, bfields@fieldses.org wrote:
>>
>> Though really I can't see any great objection to just moving xfs's hack
>> up into nfsd. It may not do everything, but it seems like an
>> incremental improvement.
>
> Because it is a hack, and hacks have a tendency to hide deeper
> problems, and not be ever get cleaned up and generally to become a
> burden to future generations.
Agreed that maintainability is an important concern.
However, I don't see that what David suggests in general is hiding a
deeper problem, but is rather exposing it. Can you explain what you
think is the issue?
> However if you do go down that path, can I suggest:
>
> 1/ get rid of the word "hack" throughout the code. If you think it
> is sensible, make it appear sensible.
Yes, if we're going to codify this method of handling readdir, let's
document it properly and treat it as a first class API.
> 2/ drop the "retry malloc of a smaller size" thing.
> In fact, you can probably use one of the set of pages that has
> been reserved for the request. It is very rare that a readdir
> request will be as big as the largest read.
Well, many Linux clients support reading directories only a page at a
time (this limitation may have been lifted recently). But other
clients often ask to read much more.
Again it appears that a Linux NFS client is not going to be the real
acid test here. Solaris and FreeBSD would probably be the best to
try, I think.
> 3/ Make the new way unconditional. That gives it broader test
> coverage which can only be a good thing. And what is good for the
> goose is good for the gander... (not that I'm calling anyone a
> goose).
As Bruce also suggested, and I agree with this (not the goose part,
the unconditionality and test coverage parts).
--
"Alright guard, begin the unnecessarily slow-moving dipping mechanism."
--Dr. Evil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-03 17:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-01 19:42 [RFC] Reinstate NFS exportability for JFFS2 David Woodhouse
2008-05-01 20:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-01 22:44 ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-02 1:38 ` Neil Brown
2008-05-02 11:37 ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-02 14:08 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-31 21:54 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 0:16 ` Neil Brown
2008-08-01 0:40 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 0:52 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 0:53 ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-01 1:00 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 1:31 ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-01 8:13 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 13:35 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 13:56 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 16:05 ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-01 16:19 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 17:47 ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-02 18:26 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-02 20:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-02 21:33 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-03 8:39 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-03 11:56 ` Neil Brown
2008-08-03 17:15 ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2008-08-04 1:03 ` Neil Brown
2008-08-04 6:19 ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-05 8:51 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-05 8:59 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-05 9:47 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-05 23:06 ` Neil Brown
2008-08-06 0:08 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-06 19:56 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-06 20:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:47 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 19:55 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 20:01 ` [PATCH 1/4] Factor out nfsd_do_readdir() into its own function David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 20:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-09 20:02 ` [PATCH 2/4] Copy XFS readdir hack into nfsd code David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 20:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-09 20:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] Remove XFS buffered readdir hack David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 20:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-09 20:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] Reinstate NFS exportability David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 20:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-04 18:41 ` [RFC] Reinstate NFS exportability for JFFS2 J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 22:37 ` Neil Brown
2008-08-17 18:22 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-08-01 2:14 ` Neil Brown
2008-08-01 8:50 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 10:03 ` Al Viro
2008-08-01 23:11 ` Neil Brown
2008-07-31 21:54 ` [PATCH 1/4] Factor out nfsd_do_readdir() into its own function David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 21:54 ` [PATCH 2/4] Copy XFS readdir hack into nfsd code, introduce FS_NO_LOOKUP_IN_READDIR flag David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH 3/4] Switch XFS to using FS_NO_LOOKUP_IN_READDIR, remove local readdir hack David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH 4/4] [JFFS2] Reinstate NFS exportability David Woodhouse
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