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From: <Tudor.Ambarus@microchip.com>
To: <tkuw584924@gmail.com>, <michael@walle.cc>
Cc: <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>, <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>,
	<richard@nod.at>, <vigneshr@ti.com>, <p.yadav@ti.com>,
	<Bacem.Daassi@infineon.com>, <Takahiro.Kuwano@infineon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 6/8] mtd: spi-nor: Retain nor->addr_width at 4BAIT parse
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 04:20:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98fa98f2-055c-2338-6790-de99670e20ff@microchip.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a035a1a3-0d82-48ab-5d09-1d5164999890@gmail.com>

On 7/22/22 07:00, Takahiro Kuwano wrote:

Good morning, Takahiro!

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> On 7/22/2022 1:06 AM, Tudor.Ambarus@microchip.com wrote:
>> On 5/23/22 10:49, Michael Walle wrote:
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>>> Am 2022-05-14 05:51, schrieb Takahiro Kuwano:
>>>> On 5/13/2022 6:40 PM, Michael Walle wrote:
>>>>> [btw the subject still has the old name of the addr_width]
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, it must be fixed in next rev.
>>>>
>>>>> Am 2022-05-13 03:26, schrieb Takahiro Kuwano:
>>>>>> On 5/13/2022 7:14 AM, Michael Walle wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 2022-05-10 00:10, schrieb tkuw584924@gmail.com:
>>>>>>>> From: Takahiro Kuwano <Takahiro.Kuwano@infineon.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In 4BAIT parse, keep nor->params->addr_width because it may be used
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> current address mode in SMPT parse later on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mh I'm not sure this is needed at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SFDP spec says
>>>>>>>   Variable address length (the current setting of the address
>>>>>>>   length mode defines the address length)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>   When the length is defined as variable, the software or hardware
>>>>>>>   controlling the memory is aware of the address length mode last
>>>>>>>   set in the memory device and this same length of address.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We don't set any address mode until all the SFDP parsing is
>>>>>>> over. Therefore we should always be in 3 byte mode, no?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually there are some devices that have variable address length but
>>>>>> 4 byte mode by default (I will work on those devices after this
>>>>>> series
>>>>>> is settled). To support such case, I prefer to use
>>>>>> params->addr_nbytes
>>>>>> as current address mode so that I can fix it in post_bfpt_fixup()
>>>>>> hook.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there public datasheets available? So these devices have a 3 byte
>>>> I will send datasheets to you in another email. At this point, only
>>>> summary datasheet is available in website.
>>>>
>>>>> and a 4 byte mode, but after reset, they are in the 4 byte mode? Looks
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>> like it should be fixed in a different way. I'm not sure the "current
>>>>> mode" handling is correct.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, we may want to introduce a new flag like SPI_NOR_4BAM_DEFAULT and
>>>> check
>>>> the flag in BFPT parse. Once I send another series, please review.
>>>>
>>>>> We need to differentiate between the mode the flash currently is using
>>>>> (nor->addr_nbytes) and the mode parsed by SFDP (params->addr_nbytes).
>>>>>
>>>> The flash's address mode affects the address length of Non-4B opcodes,
>>>> including read/write any register ops used in SMPT parse and Infineon
>>>> (spansion) specific hooks.
>>>>
>>>> The 4B opcodes always take address length of 4 regardless of flash's
>>>> address mode. In these Infineon chips, 4B opcodes for read/program/
>>>> erase are available and 4BAIT advertises them. We don't have to enter
>>>> 4 byte address mode for read/program/erase.
>>>
>>> btw. this is a pity. you are using the stateless 4b opcodes but
>>> then you don't provide stateless opcodes for the read any register
>>> op :/
>>>
>>>> So, I think we need to differentiate between address length for
>>>> read/program/erase and flash's default address mode.
>>>
>>> Or we keep them in sync. E.g. switch to 4bytes mode if we are
>>> using the 4 byte. Granted, that sounds like a hack :)
>>>
>>>> Obviously we are using nor->addr_nbytes as address length for read/
>>>> program/erase and should keep this usage.
>>>
>>> Yes, I wasn't aware that we actually two different runtime
>>> parameters:
>>>  - the read/program/erase address width, also used with the
>>>    4b opcodes
>>>  - internal mode 3b/4b. Up until now, this wasn't an issue
>>>    because either the mode was switched or the 4b opcodes
>>>    were used. So this was mutually exclusive. Now we have
>>>    flashes which uses 4b opcodes _and_ we need the state
>>>    of the internal mode.
>>>
>>> I can't think of a good solution for now. Need to think
>>> more about this, but I'm pretty busy at the moment.
>>> What I think is clear is that we need two different modes
>>> here in the spi_nor struct. nor->addr_nbytes for the
>>> read/program/erase opcodes and nor->address_mode or similar
>>> which tracks the SPI flash's internal address mode.
>>
>> Hi, Takahiro,
>>
>> Can we determine the flash's internal address mode by querying
>> the flash at run-time? Is this possible on Semper flashes?
>>
> CFR2V[7] has current address mode, but to read that, we need to
> issue Read Any Register which address length relies on current
> address mode. Chicken-and-egg...
> 

I see. What happens if we issue the Read Any Register command with
the wrong address internal mode? Will I read just 0xff?
For example try reading CFR2V[7] using addr_nbytes of value 3, and
if it fails, to read it again but this time using addr_nbytes of
value 4.

Cheers,
ta


>> To extend the idea, when the flash supports BFPT and defines
>> BFPT_DWORD1_ADDRESS_BYTES_3_ONLY or BFPT_DWORD1_ADDRESS_BYTES_4_ONLY
>> the things are clear, addr_nbytes is fixed.
>> If the flash does not define BFPT or uses
>> BFPT_DWORD1_ADDRESS_BYTES_3_OR_4, then we could determine the addr
>> mode by querying the flash.
>>
>>>
>>>> For flash's default address mode, my preference is to use
>>>> params->addr_nbytes, but I should rename it to something like
>>>> params->def_addr_nbytes and rework spi_nor_set_addr_nbytes().
>>>
>>> IMHO params should only be used to store the parsed (or
>>> hardcoded) parameters.
>>
>> yep, I share Michael's opinion.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ta
>>
>>>
>>> -michael
>>>
>>>>  static int spi_nor_set_addr_nbytes(struct spi_nor *nor)
>>>>  {
>>>>       if (nor->flags & SNOR_F_HAS_4BAIT) {
>>>>               nor->addr_nbytes = 4;
>>>>       } else if (nor->params->def_addr_nbytes) {
>>>>               nor->addr_nbytes = nor->params->def_addr_nbytes;
>>>>
>>>>> At some point, the mode is switched and nor->addr_nbytes becomes
>>>>> params->addr_nbytes. It seems in your case nor->addr_nbytes should
>>>>> be 4 right from the beginning. Which also means nor->addr_nbytes
>>>>> should be 3 for the other cases (and probably not 0).
>>>>>
>>>> With param->def_addr_nbytes, I think we can keep nor->addr_nbytes = 0
>>>> during SFDP parse.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Takahiro
>>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-22  4:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-09 22:10 [PATCH v15 0/8] mtd: spi-nor: Add support for Infineon s25hl-t/s25hs-t tkuw584924
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 1/8] mtd: spi-nor: s/addr_width/addr_nbytes tkuw584924
2022-05-12 21:01   ` Michael Walle
2022-05-31 11:13   ` Pratyush Yadav
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 2/8] mtd: spi-nor: core: Shrink the storage size of the flash_info's addr_nbytes tkuw584924
2022-05-12 21:22   ` Michael Walle
2022-05-31 11:14   ` Pratyush Yadav
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 3/8] mtd: spi-nor: sfdp: Clarify that nor->read_{opcode, dummy} are uninitialized tkuw584924
2022-05-12 21:33   ` Michael Walle
2022-05-12 21:38     ` Michael Walle
2022-05-31 11:18   ` Pratyush Yadav
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 4/8] mtd: spi-nor: Do not change nor->addr_nbytes at SFDP parsing time tkuw584924
2022-05-12 21:45   ` Michael Walle
2022-05-31 11:30   ` Pratyush Yadav
2022-07-21 14:32     ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-07-21 15:02     ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 5/8] mtd: spi-nor: core: Couple the number of address bytes with the address mode tkuw584924
2022-05-12 22:07   ` Michael Walle
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 6/8] mtd: spi-nor: Retain nor->addr_width at 4BAIT parse tkuw584924
2022-05-12 22:14   ` Michael Walle
2022-05-13  1:26     ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-05-13  9:40       ` Michael Walle
2022-05-14  3:51         ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-05-18  6:04           ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-05-18  8:35             ` Michael Walle
2022-05-18  9:12               ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-05-23  7:49           ` Michael Walle
2022-05-23  9:56             ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-06-03  9:33               ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-07-21 16:06             ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-07-22  4:00               ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-07-22  4:20                 ` Tudor.Ambarus [this message]
2022-07-22  4:31                   ` Vanessa Page
2022-07-22  4:46                   ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-07-22  5:06                     ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-07-22  5:11                       ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-07-22  6:08                         ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-07-22  7:38                           ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-07-22  7:45                             ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-06-08 11:39           ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 7/8] mtd: spi-nor: spansion: Add local function to discover page size tkuw584924
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 8/8] mtd: spi-nor: spansion: Add s25hl-t/s25hs-t IDs and fixups tkuw584924

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