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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Simon Kagstrom <simon.kagstrom@netinsight.net>
Cc: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Koskinen Aaro \(Nokia-D/Helsinki\)" <aaro.koskinen@nokia.com>,
	linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] panic.c: export panic_on_oops
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:44:30 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0910120837030.3438@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0910120828390.3438@localhost.localdomain>



On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Don't. kfifo's aren't going to help. You're doing this at all the wrong 
> levels ENTIRELY, and we already have the buffer you want to flush.

Btw, a few simple rules:

 - if you need to make your device look like a "console device" for 
   dumping at oops time, you're doing things wrong. You don't want line 
   buffered output to begin with, and you don't want to see each line, you 
   only want this at exceptional points.

 - if you need to look at "in_interrupt()" or "panic_on_oops", you're 
   doing things wrong.

 - if you add your own buffers, you're doing things wrong. I have 
   CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=18 in my kernel, so I've already got 256kB worth 
   of memory allocated for kernel messages. Sometimes I increase that 
   further, just because I do some silly printk debugging.

IOW, just add a very simple "flush the dmesg buffer on oops" callback to 
the end of the oops printout code (just a single call after the oops thing 
is now known to be in the dmesg buffers!)

It's not just oopses, btw. Maybe people would like to do this as the last 
stage of a reboot/shutdown too. Because some of the final printouts from 
the shutdown will never make it to disk, because 'ksyslogd' has been 
killed, and the root filesystem has been turned read-only.

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-12 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-11  6:10 [PATCH] panic.c: export panic_on_oops Artem Bityutskiy
2009-10-12 11:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 11:23   ` Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-12 11:25   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-10-12 11:37     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 12:01       ` Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-12 12:09         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 12:15           ` David Woodhouse
2009-10-12 12:20             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 12:33               ` David Woodhouse
2009-10-12 12:36                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 12:48                   ` David Woodhouse
2009-10-12 13:06               ` Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-12 13:15                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 13:39                   ` Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-12 14:30                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 15:01                       ` Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-12 15:23                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 15:36                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-12 15:44                       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-10-12 17:29                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-10-12 17:43                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-12 17:46                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-12 18:09                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-12 18:23                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 18:36                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-12 18:45                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-12 19:14                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 19:18                             ` Dirk Hohndel
2009-10-13  7:58                             ` Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-13  8:57                               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-10-13 13:17                             ` [PATCH/RFC v5 0/5]: mtdoops: fixes and improvements Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-13 13:21                               ` [PATCH/RFC v5 1/5]: mtdoops: avoid erasing already empty areas Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-13 13:22                               ` [PATCH/RFC v5 2/5]: mtdoops: Keep track of used/unused mtdoops pages in an array Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-13 13:22                               ` [PATCH/RFC v5 3/5]: mtdoops: Make page (record) size configurable Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-13 13:22                               ` [PATCH/RFC v5 4/5]: core: Add dump device to call on oopses and panics Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-13 15:37                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-26  9:36                                 ` Jörn Engel
2009-11-30  7:27                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-30  7:46                                     ` Jörn Engel
2009-11-30  8:51                                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-30  9:35                                         ` Jörn Engel
2009-11-30  9:40                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-30  9:53                                             ` Simon Kagstrom
     [not found]                                               ` <1259580207.19465.379.camel@macbook.infradead.org>
     [not found]                                                 ` <20091130123752.39727115@marrow.netinsight.se>
     [not found]                                                   ` <1259582202.19465.388.camel@macbook.infradead.org>
2009-11-30 12:03                                                     ` Simon Kagstrom
2009-11-30  9:54                                             ` Jörn Engel
2009-11-30 10:23                                         ` David Woodhouse
2009-11-30 10:27                                           ` David Woodhouse
2009-11-30  9:09                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-30  9:28                                     ` Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-13 13:22                               ` [PATCH/RFC v5 5/5]: mtdoops: refactor as a dump_device Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-14 13:34                             ` [PATCH v6 0/5]: mtdoops: fixes and improvements Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-14 13:40                               ` [PATCH v6 1/5]: mtdoops: avoid erasing already empty areas Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-14 13:41                               ` [PATCH v6 2/5]: mtdoops: Keep track of used/unused mtdoops pages in an array Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-14 13:41                               ` [PATCH v6 3/5]: mtdoops: Make page (record) size configurable Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-14 13:41                               ` [PATCH v6 4/5]: core: Add kernel message dumper to call on oopses and panics Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-14 16:49                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-14 13:41                               ` [PATCH v6 5/5]: mtdoops: refactor as a kmsg_dumper Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-14 15:12                                 ` Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-15  5:11                                   ` vimal singh
2009-10-12 12:27           ` [PATCH] panic.c: export panic_on_oops Simon Kagstrom
2009-10-12 12:32             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 13:08               ` Alan Cox
2009-10-12 13:25                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 13:32                   ` David Woodhouse
2009-10-12 14:26                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 14:36                       ` David Woodhouse
2009-10-12 15:14                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 18:32                           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-12 19:18                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 14:12       ` Arjan van de Ven

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