From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB9CC56202 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 22:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E993320643 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 22:24:56 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lists.infradead.org header.i=@lists.infradead.org header.b="ZJHiAzfv" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org E993320643 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=telegraphics.com.au Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-mtd-bounces+linux-mtd=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Cc:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: Subject:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=+LhLGe/gAfCjscnpGdS3xy3DXnmCIYQF1pklffBz6Jk=; b=ZJHiAzfvDLgYM/WmSSu0axqoC FI/cCTi17XynsIKp1tWltYtjIIR82+dZ0957M+T7CMZh51dLTHMDSLyBNIf5uw4CyTW/qxwoGmE6r 7Kl2ENeguhA/2vn8oaetULV1X79cYGyfFTU0FW/DkJMz1A/65tNr0Mje91BDFC2q6m/HPebWtBoCY T2cJCSQbmDrC1jE45PWpGcu5bGrQMvxDU/b/MmqUDAUzaL8i2qHSC8MP7X5oGxZI0SUjn7lW+eaXK 2NU1hBoli56TeA8J8axHeajpZ3LH3YCVTtz+qBiB1NXc1HadsMLEvNbP/5sxWuVkOMHh5HHdu2k7W Im2HUvAlw==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=merlin.infradead.org) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1khgjT-0000E9-HL; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 22:24:19 +0000 Received: from kvm5.telegraphics.com.au ([98.124.60.144]) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1khgjO-0000Bv-Gb; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 22:24:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kvm5.telegraphics.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A96E22AD6; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 17:24:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:24:08 +1100 (AEDT) From: Finn Thain To: Kees Cook Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH 000/141] Fix fall-through warnings for Clang In-Reply-To: <202011241327.BB28F12F6@keescook> Message-ID: References: <202011201129.B13FDB3C@keescook> <20201120115142.292999b2@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> <202011220816.8B6591A@keescook> <9b57fd4914b46f38d54087d75e072d6e947cb56d.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <0147972a72bc13f3629de8a32dee6f1f308994b5.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20201123130348.GA3119@embeddedor> <8f5611bb015e044fa1c0a48147293923c2d904e4.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <202011241327.BB28F12F6@keescook> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20201124_172414_589838_88C45691 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 15.20 ) X-BeenThere: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux MTD discussion mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, target-devel@vger.kernel.org, Greg KH , linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Cameron , linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, "Gustavo A. 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Silva" , James Bottomley , linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, GR-everest-linux-l2@marvell.com, wcn36xx@lists.infradead.org, linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org, linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-afs@lists.infradead.org, drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, rds-devel@oss.oracle.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, oss-drivers@netronome.com, linux-atm-general@lists.sourceforge.net, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, cluster-devel@redhat.com, usb-storage@lists.one-eyed-alien.net, linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, Miguel Ojeda , Jakub Kicinski , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org, selinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-geode@lists.infradead.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-hams@vger.kernel.org, Nathan Chancellor , linux-can@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, Nick Desaulniers , linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, GR-Linux-NIC-Dev@marvell.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-decnet-user@lists.sourceforge.net, samba-technical@lists.samba.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, tipc-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, patches@opensource.cirrus.com, Joe Perches , linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-mtd" Errors-To: linux-mtd-bounces+linux-mtd=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Tue, 24 Nov 2020, Kees Cook wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 08:31:30AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote: > > Really, no ... something which produces no improvement has no value at > > all ... we really shouldn't be wasting maintainer time with it because > > it has a cost to merge. I'm not sure we understand where the balance > > lies in value vs cost to merge but I am confident in the zero value > > case. > > What? We can't measure how many future bugs aren't introduced because > the kernel requires explicit case flow-control statements for all new > code. > These statements are not "missing" unless you presume that code written before the latest de facto language spec was written should somehow be held to that spec. If the 'fallthrough' statement is not part of the latest draft spec then we should ask why not before we embrace it. Being that the kernel still prefers -std=gnu89 you might want to consider what has prevented -std=gnu99 or -std=gnu2x etc. > We already enable -Wimplicit-fallthrough globally, so that's not the > discussion. The issue is that Clang is (correctly) even more strict than > GCC for this, so these are the remaining ones to fix for full Clang > coverage too. > Seems to me you should be patching the compiler. When you have consensus among the language lawyers you'll have more credibility with those being subjected to enforcement. ______________________________________________________ Linux MTD discussion mailing list http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mtd/