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From: Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/16] bitops: Change parity8() return type to bool
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 14:09:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2b632cc-ca69-497f-9cf9-782bd02cac79@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <795281B1-9B8A-477F-8012-DECD14CB53E5@zytor.com>



On 3/13/2025 9:36 AM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On March 13, 2025 9:24:38 AM PDT, Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 05:09:16PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>> On March 12, 2025 4:56:31 PM PDT, Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> This is really a question of whether you expect odd or even parity as
>>>> the "true" value. I think that would depend on context, and we may not
>>>> reach a good consensus.
>>>>
>>>> I do agree that my brain would jump to "true is even, false is odd".
>>>> However, I also agree returning the value as 0 for even and 1 for odd
>>>> kind of made sense before, and updating this to be a bool and then
>>>> requiring to switch all the callers is a bit obnoxious...
>>>
>>> Odd = 1 = true is the only same definition. It is a bitwise XOR, or sum mod 1.
>>
>> The x86 implementation will be "popcnt(val) & 1", right? So if we
>> choose to go with odd == false, we'll have to add an extra negation.
>> So because it's a purely conventional thing, let's just pick a simpler
>> one?
>>
>> Compiler's builtin parity() returns 1 for odd.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Yury
> 
> The x86 implementation, no, but there will be plenty of others having that exact definition.

Makes sense to stick with that existing convention then. Enough to
convince me.

Thanks,
Jake

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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-06 16:25 [PATCH v3 00/16] Introduce and use generic parity16/32/64 helper Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] bitops: Change parity8() return type to bool Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 20:45   ` David Laight
2025-03-07  6:48   ` Jiri Slaby
2025-03-07 11:38     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-07 11:42       ` Jiri Slaby
2025-03-07 12:13         ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-07 12:14           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-07 19:30             ` Yury Norov
2025-03-07 19:33               ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-13 16:26                 ` Yury Norov
2025-03-07 19:36         ` David Laight
2025-03-07 19:39           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-12 23:56           ` Jacob Keller
2025-03-13  0:09             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-13 16:24               ` Yury Norov
2025-03-13 16:36                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-13 21:09                   ` Jacob Keller [this message]
2025-03-14 19:06                     ` David Laight
2025-03-15  0:14                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] bitops: Add parity16(), parity32(), and parity64() helpers Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] media: media/test_drivers: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity8() Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] media: pci: cx18-av-vbi: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] media: saa7115: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] serial: max3100: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] lib/bch: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32() Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] Input: joystick - " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] net: ethernet: oa_tc6: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] wifi: brcm80211: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] drm/bridge: dw-hdmi: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] mtd: ssfdc: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] fsi: i2cr: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] fsi: i2cr: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity64() Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] Input: joystick - " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-06 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] nfp: bpf: " Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-07  3:08 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] Introduce and use generic parity16/32/64 helper H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-07 18:49   ` Andrew Cooper
2025-03-07 19:30     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-07 19:53       ` David Laight
2025-03-07 20:07         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-09 15:48           ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-09 16:00             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-09 17:42             ` Jiri Slaby
2025-03-11 22:01             ` Yury Norov
2025-03-11 22:24               ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-12 15:51                 ` Yury Norov
2025-03-12 16:29                   ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-13  7:41                     ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-23 15:16                       ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-23 22:40                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-24 15:53                           ` Yury Norov
2025-03-29 16:00                             ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-25 19:43                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-04-03 14:39                           ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-03 16:14                             ` Yury Norov
2025-04-03 16:54                               ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-04  2:51                               ` Jeremy Kerr
2025-04-04  8:46                                 ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-04-04  9:01                                   ` Jeremy Kerr
2025-04-04  8:47                               ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-07  3:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-07  9:19   ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-07 10:52     ` Jiri Slaby
2025-03-07  6:57 ` Jiri Slaby
2025-03-07  9:22   ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2025-03-07 15:55   ` Yury Norov
2025-03-07 18:30     ` Kuan-Wei Chiu

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