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<20230705185812.579118-1-jlayton@kernel.org> <20230705185812.579118-3-jlayton@kernel.org> <20230830001917.GC461907@ZenIV> User-Agent: Evolution 3.48.4 (3.48.4-1.fc38) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20230829_174909_671073_9C75E326 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 12.42 ) X-BeenThere: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux MTD discussion mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-mtd" Errors-To: linux-mtd-bounces+linux-mtd=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Wed, 2023-08-30 at 01:19 +0100, Al Viro wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 02:58:11PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > > + * POSIX mandates that the old and new parent directories have their ctime and > > + * mtime updated, and that inodes of @old_dentry and @new_dentry (if any), have > > + * their ctime updated. > > APPLICATION USAGE > Some implementations mark for update the last file status change timestamp > of renamed files and some do not. Applications which make use of the > last file status change timestamp may behave differently with respect > to renamed files unless they are designed to allow for either behavior. > > So for children POSIX permits rather than mandates. Doesn't really matter; > Linux behaviour had been to touch ctime on children since way back, if > not since the very beginning. Mea culpa. You're quite correct. I'll plan to roll a small patch to update the comment over this function. Thanks! -- Jeff Layton ______________________________________________________ Linux MTD discussion mailing list http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mtd/