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From: Romain Izard <romain.izard.pro@gmail.com>
To: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Page corruption when writing non-sequential pages in an MLC NAND eraseblock
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:18:31 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <l2grtn$svg$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAHqTa-0d=U+W2nju8WeCJ=gL+ja8DVuK0BUquajOL6qXV5C0+g@mail.gmail.com

On 2013-10-01, Avery Pennarun <apenwarr@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Does this sound familiar?
>
> Setup:
> - Linux 2.6.37 or 3.2.26 (apologies for the old versions, but I
> couldn't find any related patches in newer kernels and these are
> embedded systems that are a bit hard to upgrade)
> - Micron MT29F16G08CBACAWP - MLC NAND
> - 1 Mbyte eraseblocks
> - 1 kbyte pages
> - Tested on two different hardware platforms (MIPS and ARM devices)
>
> Steps:
> - Disable ECC to avoid any confusion (ECC turns out to not affect the
> test results, but I wanted to make sure)
> - Erase any eraseblock
> - Write all-zeroes to page 0x18 of that eraseblock; read it back -> ok
> - Write all-zeroes to page 0x12 of that eraseblock; read it back ->
> FAIL, all 0xff instead
> - Read page 0x18 -> completely random data (about 12% of bits are flipped)
>
> More details:
> - It doesn't happen with a related Micron SLC NAND
> - If you write the pages in the opposite order there is no problem
> - Delays before/after reading and writing, and the sequence of reads,
> has no effect
> - This turns out to happen for any pair of pages, where pairs are
> always exactly 6 pages apart (n and n+6), other than the first and
> last 4 pages in each eraseblock, which are paired with different pages
> to make the math work out
>
> I've read about the concept of MLC "paired pages" causing corruption
> elsewhere, but it supposedly only happens when you get a power
> failure.  It's happening for me during normal runtime, which seems
> wrong.

For me you're violating one key MLC assumption: the pages within a block
must be written in a strictly increasing order. It should be written
somewhere in the component's datasheet.

Best regards,
-- 
Romain Izard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-02 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-01 23:01 Page corruption when writing non-sequential pages in an MLC NAND eraseblock Avery Pennarun
2013-10-02  7:58 ` Ricard Wanderlof
2013-10-02 19:05   ` Avery Pennarun
2013-10-02 10:18 ` Romain Izard [this message]
2013-10-02 18:09   ` Avery Pennarun
2013-10-03  7:40     ` Ricard Wanderlof
2013-10-03  7:44       ` Avery Pennarun
2013-10-03  8:14         ` Romain Izard
2013-10-03 15:26           ` Ricard Wanderlof

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