From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Bambach Subject: Re: root password Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:55:44 -0600 Message-ID: <200504011055.44030.eric@cisu.net> References: <5.1.0.14.1.20050330063201.02035bd0@celine> Reply-To: eric@cisu.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Return-path: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20050330063201.02035bd0@celine> Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Ray Olszewski Cc: linux-newbie@vger.kernel.org On Wednesday 30 March 2005 08:36 am, Ray Olszewski wrote: > Any other suggestion of how to become root without knowing the root > password is a technique for breaking into systems, and I (and I hope > everyone else) will not give advice on that publicly, in this forum o= r > anywhere else. I respectfully disagree. How will sysadmins ever know how to secure the= ir=20 systems unless they know HOW break-ins occur. Certainly most hacking do= esnt=20 come from boot CDs but having a more informed sysadmin is infinitely be= tter=20 than one that only discovers how to make their system more secure *AFTE= R*=20 being broken into. What you are saying is that security through obscurity is good and ther= e have=20 been countless rebuttals on just how horrible security though obscurity= is in=20 99% of the situations. The only reason for S.T.O. is a company that fou= nd an=20 exploit and is giving lead-time to the vendor to patch their vulnerable= =20 software. --=20 ---------------------------------------- --EB > All is fine except that I can reliably "oops" it simply by trying to = read > from /proc/apm (e.g. cat /proc/apm). > oops output and ksymoops-2.3.4 output is attached. > Is there anything else I can contribute? The latitude and longtitude of the bios writers current position, and a ballistic missile. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0--Alan Cox LKML-Decembe= r 08,2000=20 ---------------------------------------- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie"= in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs