From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Bambach Subject: Re: remote admin Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:15:09 -0500 Message-ID: <200504141615.09765.eric@cisu.net> References: Reply-To: eric@cisu.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Return-path: In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: linux Cc: "J." On Thursday 14 April 2005 12:14 pm, J. wrote: > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Eric Bambach wrote: > > Ssh is the de facto standard for remote administration but It lacks= the > > ability to give you a GUI interface. > > What ? Search for SSH GUI and google returns +770,000 matches.. ! Oth= er > than that it can be used to encrypt just about any connection, like f= or > example X . Have you *TRIED* X over SSH over slow connections? There are better=20 alternatives. > > SSH Is quick and dirty > > Send a message to one of the SSH lists with that line in the subject.= ;-) I'm afraid I dont know what you mean. As far as I've experienced, if yo= u want=20 a remote shell you unpack, configure, install, ssh-keygen, sshd, then o= n your=20 local box ssh myhost.com. Im sure it can go downhill from there for mor= e=20 advanced needs, but for grabbing a shell SSH is pretty easy especially = if it=20 is preinstalled in your distribution. > > remote administration and comes standard (or should ) on all Unix > > variants. (openssh.com) > > > > TightVNC is a rather "unrobust" remote X server but it gets the job= done. > > This will let you connect remotely and get an X GUI session open. > > > > If you can afford it, ........... > > > ... > > > Then take 10min's of your precious time and look at some of the +200 > projects that provide OPEN/FREE remote X administration. Could you back up your claim? Can you provide a SINGLE application besi= des X=20 over SSH instead of inventing a random semi-large number. Instead of=20 providing good advice you instead be-rate my advice and give an offtopi= c OSS=20 fanboy rant. > Waf, waf.. > The first computers were TIME-SHARING comp's . They had to be because= they > were to expensive to buy. Don't tell me we have to buy software to wo= rk > remotely ??????? Back to the stone-age again.... Hmmzz.. Smell old Mi= cro > soft users.. waf, waf.. > > Sorry people, but if small schools have to start buying stuff for the= se > relatively simple but fundamental tasks then w're definitely on the w= rong > track in the OSS galaxy. Just because you have to pay for something doesn't mean its evil and yo= u=20 should immediatly dismiss it. If it fits your needs for goodness sakes = pay=20 the $50/computer and feed the writers who made the software. The main concern isn't always price, especially if the price is low or=20 reasonable for the service provided. Why should this admin spend his ti= me=20 hacking a random FREE/OSS solution when there is a reasonable paid=20 alternative that fits his needs better? Perhaps a free/oss solution wil= l fit=20 his needs better, but to automatically choose free/oss over a paid solu= tion=20 is just unwise fanaticism. > > HTH! > > > > On Friday 15 April 2005 12:39 am, S. Barret Dolph wrote: > > > I would like to be able to do some admin stuff on our school comp= uters > > > from home. What is best way to do this? Are programs such as "Web= min" > > > better than remote logins or just different. > > Ehm, webmin is also a remote login .. No difference inbetween the two= , if > you put it generaly like that. You always have to login to your syste= m . > > Let me just say this: > > Webmin can provide a lot of things to you AND to someone who is NOT > you. Make sure you only allow connections from your static IP to your > schools static IP address by firewall and learn to use hosts.allow & > hosts.deny. Pump all data thru secure shell, ssl or any other form of > encryption. Keep an eye on the logfiles, pick decent passwords, restr= ict > acces and change the password a couple of times a year. > > Would be great of you also could setup a VPN, but is definitely not > required. > > > > The administrative tasks are usually > > > more school administration than computer administration but not a= lways > > > just that. For example, I am now working on getting chinese input= on > > > our school computer. School administration work is usually just t= hings > > > like updating documents and making sure that the latest materials= are > > > available to them. > > Again, would be great if we would know what distro <-> pc you use and= if > you know how to handle a X configuration. Because your already almos= t > there... > > > > Cordially, > > > S. Barret Dolph > > > Taipei Taiwan > > J. > > -- > Don't worry Ma'am. We're university students, - we know what we're do= ing. > --=20 ---------------------------------------- --EB > All is fine except that I can reliably "oops" it simply by trying to = read > from /proc/apm (e.g. cat /proc/apm). > oops output and ksymoops-2.3.4 output is attached. > Is there anything else I can contribute? The latitude and longtitude of the bios writers current position, and a ballistic missile. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0--Alan Cox LKML-Decembe= r 08,2000=20 ---------------------------------------- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie"= in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs