From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Oliver Ob Subject: Re: Lilo and NT-Safeguard -NO Diskdrive available on Toshiba!-2 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:20:32 +0100 Sender: linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <3E35BEC0.22C19799@gmx.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Return-path: List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Riley Williams Cc: Lx Newbie List Riley Williams : >=20 > Hi Oliver. Hi Riley, sorry, we better both calm down. But please understand my situation. I am fumbling with this shit without success since 6 months already. So bare with my temperament and dont take it too serious :-) > > There is some problem here. I had been using my machine dualbooting > > with Lilo for NT and Linux. Worked like a charme. Lilo resided in > > the mbr and it worked. > > > > But now the NT uses SAFEGUARD and that thing sits in the mbr for th= e > > pre-boot-password-authentication. So for all of you who do not know > > SG yet: It starts booting ONLY if you entered the correct pw. > > > > I have not done this before and ask for your advice: > > > > *** AGAIN, STOP WASTING MY AND YOU TIME WITH IDEAS TO MODIFY THE NT > > LOADER! I SAID A MILLION TIMES WHY I CANNOT CHANGE THAT !!! **** > > Thanks. >=20 > If you're not willing to read the replies you get, then stop wasting = OUR > time asking for information you then ignore !!! No, I read and tried. Secondly, do not take that too personal, I received more answers than you can think of (in private mail), and 90% of them were telling me to change the NTloader, just like the howto says :-(( =20 > To quote your comment above, you said "Lilo resided in the mbr" and T= HAT > is the problem that stops SafeGuard from working. As I stated in my > previous reply, you need to move Lilo out of the mbr and into the boo= t > sector of the LINUX partition - NOT the NT partition as you claim in > your comments. When you've done so, you change the partition table > (which is NOT part of the MBR and is also NOT part of the NT loader) > to indicate that the active partition is the Linux one. >=20 > > How can I continue using LILO for NT/Linux dualboot *when I need to > > make NT believe the orignal ("safeguarded") NT-Bootsector in the > > mbr, but want to use lilo in the mbr ACTUALLY >=20 > Why do you want to put lilo in the MBR ??? Why not just give safeguar= d > what it wants in the first place? Because to my understanding any booting system on earth needs his mbr, or am I wrong here? How would a system without mbr boot at all? Teach me if I am wrong here! I want to learn! =20 > > I put it like this: I NEED lilo in the mbr... >=20 > Why? I've never put lilo in the MBR and have many systems happily dua= l > booting Linux and Windows, so it can't be for that. I even have one > system that is quad-booting Linux, Windows XP, OS2 Warp and MS-DOS an= d > did it precicely this way. Alright, this is a good point to ask: What THEN have _you_ got in your = mbr? I currently have the data from win98 inside my mbr. Must I zero it out?=20 If I put the Safeguard-mbr back to my drive, it boots NT without even booting Lilo on hda2 even THOUGH I have activated hda2 as booting partition. So please, Riley, what have you in your mbr when you say you are multibooting all those above systems with a lilo in a primary partition (hda1 hda2 hda3 or hda4)? Please include also a list of your partitions using fdisk -l to help my understanding. I want to get to know this! > > ...but can only boot with SAFEGUARD. So how can I tell lilo to run > > the SAFEGUARD sector, which I have here in a file (512 bytes) ? >=20 > That's easy enough, but if you do it that way, it won't work as the > safeguard sector is sensitive to its position on the hard drive. Do you use safeguard ? =20 > Best wishes from Riley. Best wishes back and bare with my 6-month-agony-temperament... Olli --=20 *=BA=A4.,___,.=A4=BA*=A8=A8=A8*=A4 =3DOliver@home=3D = *=BA=A4.,=B8=B8=B8,.=A4=BA*=A8=A8*=A4 I / __|__ http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/Olli/olli.html I I / / |_/ http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/friends.html I I \ \__|_\ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VGAP-93 I I \___| mailto:VGAP-93-subscribe@yahoogroups.com I >>> Telek0ma iBBMS - moving house, but online! +49....TRSi1 <<< - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie"= in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs