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From: Mark Hounschell <markh@compro.net>
To: sandeep lahane <sandeep.lahane@gmail.com>
Cc: Raseel Bhagat <raseelbhagat@gmail.com>,
	kernelnewbies@nl.linux.org, linux-newbie@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why is Linux not RTOS?
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:28:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4614F96F.2020900@compro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2d51cbf80704050323u48bcb2f1u4861c3ff8a3eebe1@mail.gmail.com>

sandeep lahane wrote:
> On 4/5/07, Raseel Bhagat <raseelbhagat@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Sandeep,
>>
>> On 4/5/07, sandeep lahane <sandeep.lahane@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >They have a paravirtualization based approach using which
>> > guest OSes like RTOS or other rich OSes can be run simultaneously on
>> > an embedded platform. These guest OSes can communicate using inter OS
>> > communication mechanisms. They are partitioning resources which can be
>> > partitioned like system RAM and resources like CPU, MMU and interrupt
>> > controller are virtualized since they can't be partitioned. So
>> > basically, what they are doing is almost totally irrelevant with this
>> > question, since they are not trying to make Linux a RTOS, rather they
>> > are making Linux and other guest OSes co-exist with RTOSes
>> > simultaneously. Please CMIIW.
>> >
>>
>> I completely concur with you. And it makes lot of sense too.
>> For example RTLinux (Real time Linux) from FSMLabs is another such
>> approach.
>> They have a micro-kernel , which is basically a core real tie\me
>> kernel, which sits on top of the vanilla linux kernel. This way, all
>> the real time tasks are handled by the Microkernel during whcih time
>> Linux kernel runs as an idle process. Only when no RT tasks are
>> present, the vanilla Linux kernel executes all the non-RT tasks.
>> This way, RT behaviour is accomplished without having to modify the
>> core Linux kernel.
>>
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> 
> Yes, may be the poster is looking for RTLinux kind of thing.

The vanilla Linux kernel can and is already being used in RT environments.
A dual processor box when configured properly can provide a very
deterministic env for a properly written RT application. The trick is to
realize that the 'box' must be dedicated to that application and that application
alone.

With Ingos work in progress at http://people.redhat.com/mingo/realtime-preempt/
that is becoming of less importance however.

Mark
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-05 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-04 12:21 Why is Linux not RTOS? Rick Brown
2007-04-04 13:00 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-04 13:05   ` Rick Brown
2007-04-04 15:21     ` Daniel Cheng
2007-04-05  9:36       ` Tzahi Fadida
2007-04-05 10:05         ` sandeep lahane
2007-04-05 10:11           ` Raseel Bhagat
2007-04-05 10:23             ` sandeep lahane
2007-04-05 13:28               ` Mark Hounschell [this message]
2007-04-05 10:07         ` Raseel Bhagat
2007-05-30  0:47           ` Rodrigo Rubira Branco
2007-05-31  1:16             ` K.R. Foley
2007-04-05  7:14 ` Pradeep
2007-04-05  9:01   ` Raseel Bhagat
2007-04-05  9:05     ` Pharaoh .
2007-04-05 11:52 ` Not Initialize the shrinker->list after kmalloc() in mm/vmscan.c(V2.6.12)? qingxiaoming
2007-04-09  5:57   ` Rajat Jain

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