* IRQ Tracing Problem in Linux 2.6.28 Kernel
@ 2009-04-13 22:00 Sol Kavy
2009-04-14 12:51 ` Gedare Bloom
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0 siblings, 3 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sol Kavy @ 2009-04-13 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
The following back trace represents a deadlock in Ubicom's SMP port of 2.6.28 kernel. I am sure that we are doing something unexpected. I would appreciate the community's help in understanding what is going wrong.
Thanks in advance for any pointers,
Sol Kavy
Problem:
Ubicom's initial port does not use GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS. Instead it uses a periodic timer based on HZ. The periodic timer calls do_timer() on each tick.
From the arch directory perspective, we are required to hold the xtime_lock before calling do_timer(). The lock is indeed help by cpu 3 as evidenced in the output below.
The call to get_jiffies_64() at the top of the backtrace is attempting to read the jiffies in a reliable fashion. The caller is required to wait for the xtime_lock not to be held. Clearly, since we are in a path that is holding the xtime_lock, this will never make forward progress.
What is unclear to me is why other ports are not seeing the same problem?
Perhaps it is because most ports now set GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS which uses an entirely different mechanism for doing things. I am in the middle of switching the port to use GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS but would like to understand this failure in more detail.
Any feedback is greatly appreciated,
Sol
Config Flags:
# CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS is not set
CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS=y
CONFIG_IRQ_PER_CPU=y
CONFIG_TRACE_IRQFLAGS_SUPPORT=y
# CONFIG_DEBUG_SHIRQ is not set
CONFIG_TRACE_IRQFLAGS=y
CONFIG_IRQSOFF_TRACER=y
State of the lock:
(gdb) p xtime_lock
$5 = {sequence = 47089, lock = {raw_lock = {lock = 1}, magic = 3735899821,
owner_cpu = 3, owner = 0x42b01160}}
This is a backtrace from CPU 3:
(gdb) bt
#0 get_jiffies_64 () at include/linux/seqlock.h:94
#1 0x4044f558 in sched_clock () at kernel/sched_clock.c:40
#2 0x4045f108 in ring_buffer_time_stamp (cpu=3) at kernel/trace/ring_buffer.c:58
#3 0x40464c50 in ftrace_now (cpu=3) at kernel/trace/trace.c:77
#4 0x404656ec in trace_hardirqs_off () at kernel/trace/trace_irqsoff.c:207
#5 0x40413020 in _spin_lock_irqsave (lock=0x3) at kernel/spinlock.c:82
#6 0x40451b2c in clocksource_get_next () at kernel/time/clocksource.c:254
#7 0x3ffd08ac in update_wall_time () at kernel/time/timekeeping.c:182
#8 0x4043bcd8 in do_timer (ticks=0) at kernel/timer.c:1125
#9 0x404169f8 in timer_tick (irq=<value optimized out>,
dummy=<value optimized out>) at arch/ubicom32/kernel/time.c:126
#10 0x3ffcefb0 in handle_IRQ_event (irq=<value optimized out>,
action=0x406fe6f4) at kernel/irq/handle.c:142
#11 0x3ffcee20 in __do_IRQ (irq=<value optimized out>)
at kernel/irq/handle.c:239
#12 0x3ffcfcc8 in do_IRQ (irq=47089, regs=<value optimized out>)
at arch/ubicom32/kernel/irq.c:250
#13 0x4041018c in sys_call_table ()
#14 0x4044f558 in sched_clock () at kernel/sched_clock.c:40
#15 0x00000008 in ?? ()
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* Re: IRQ Tracing Problem in Linux 2.6.28 Kernel
2009-04-13 22:00 IRQ Tracing Problem in Linux 2.6.28 Kernel Sol Kavy
@ 2009-04-14 12:51 ` Gedare Bloom
2009-04-14 16:53 ` Sol Kavy
2009-04-14 22:58 ` Sol Kavy
2009-04-24 15:50 ` Jeffrey Cao
2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gedare Bloom @ 2009-04-14 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sol Kavy; +Cc: linux-newbie
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Sol Kavy <skavy@ubicom.com> wrote:
> The following back trace represents a deadlock in Ubicom's SMP port of 2.6.28 kernel. I am sure that we are doing something unexpected. I would appreciate the community's help in understanding what is going wrong.
>
> Thanks in advance for any pointers,
>
> Sol Kavy
>
> Problem:
> Ubicom's initial port does not use GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS. Instead it uses a periodic timer based on HZ. The periodic timer calls do_timer() on each tick.
>
> From the arch directory perspective, we are required to hold the xtime_lock before calling do_timer(). The lock is indeed help by cpu 3 as evidenced in the output below.
>
> The call to get_jiffies_64() at the top of the backtrace is attempting to read the jiffies in a reliable fashion. The caller is required to wait for the xtime_lock not to be held. Clearly, since we are in a path that is holding the xtime_lock, this will never make forward progress.
>
> What is unclear to me is why other ports are not seeing the same problem?
>
> Perhaps it is because most ports now set GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS which uses an entirely different mechanism for doing things. I am in the middle of switching the port to use GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS but would like to understand this failure in more detail.
>
> Any feedback is greatly appreciated,
>
> Sol
>
> Config Flags:
> # CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS is not set
> CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS=y
> CONFIG_IRQ_PER_CPU=y
> CONFIG_TRACE_IRQFLAGS_SUPPORT=y
> # CONFIG_DEBUG_SHIRQ is not set
> CONFIG_TRACE_IRQFLAGS=y
> CONFIG_IRQSOFF_TRACER=y
>
> State of the lock:
> (gdb) p xtime_lock
> $5 = {sequence = 47089, lock = {raw_lock = {lock = 1}, magic = 3735899821,
> owner_cpu = 3, owner = 0x42b01160}}
>
> This is a backtrace from CPU 3:
>
> (gdb) bt
> #0 get_jiffies_64 () at include/linux/seqlock.h:94
> #1 0x4044f558 in sched_clock () at kernel/sched_clock.c:40
> #2 0x4045f108 in ring_buffer_time_stamp (cpu=3) at kernel/trace/ring_buffer.c:58
> #3 0x40464c50 in ftrace_now (cpu=3) at kernel/trace/trace.c:77
> #4 0x404656ec in trace_hardirqs_off () at kernel/trace/trace_irqsoff.c:207
> #5 0x40413020 in _spin_lock_irqsave (lock=0x3) at kernel/spinlock.c:82
> #6 0x40451b2c in clocksource_get_next () at kernel/time/clocksource.c:254
> #7 0x3ffd08ac in update_wall_time () at kernel/time/timekeeping.c:182
> #8 0x4043bcd8 in do_timer (ticks=0) at kernel/timer.c:1125
> #9 0x404169f8 in timer_tick (irq=<value optimized out>,
> dummy=<value optimized out>) at arch/ubicom32/kernel/time.c:126
> #10 0x3ffcefb0 in handle_IRQ_event (irq=<value optimized out>,
> action=0x406fe6f4) at kernel/irq/handle.c:142
> #11 0x3ffcee20 in __do_IRQ (irq=<value optimized out>)
> at kernel/irq/handle.c:239
> #12 0x3ffcfcc8 in do_IRQ (irq=47089, regs=<value optimized out>)
> at arch/ubicom32/kernel/irq.c:250
> #13 0x4041018c in sys_call_table ()
> #14 0x4044f558 in sched_clock () at kernel/sched_clock.c:40
> #15 0x00000008 in ?? ()
>
>
>
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Hi Sol,
Caveat: I'm not familiar with porting Linux :)
get_jiffies_64 does attempt to acquire xtime_lock, but since you know
the lock is already held in do_timer, can you simply read the value
directly? You'll just have to make sure every code path through
sched_clock() has xtime_lock...
Here is an example from the lxr that might be relevant:
http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.29/arch/frv/kernel/time.c#L151
Gedare Bloom
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* RE: IRQ Tracing Problem in Linux 2.6.28 Kernel
2009-04-14 12:51 ` Gedare Bloom
@ 2009-04-14 16:53 ` Sol Kavy
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sol Kavy @ 2009-04-14 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gedare Bloom; +Cc: linux-newbie
Every arch's timer interrupt does the following:
write_seqlock(&xtime_lock);
do_timer(1);
write_sequnlock(&xtime_lock);
This is required because the first thing do_timer() does is increment jiffies_64.
void do_timer(unsigned long ticks)
{
jiffies_64 += ticks;
update_times(ticks);
}
The frames 8-0 in the backtrace below are in Linux main code (which as a port, we don't want to change). The arch calls do_timer() to advance time (and must do so with the lock held). However, if the Linux code is then going to eventually call get_jiffies_64(), this leads to a deadlock. The only time that get_jiffies_64() is called is when you have selected CONFIG_IRQSOFF_TRACER and CONFIG_TRACE_IRQFLAGS.
My next step is to build this on a x86 and try to understand why that port does not run into the same problem.
Sol
-----Original Message-----
From: Gedare Bloom [mailto:gedare@gwmail.gwu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:52 AM
To: Sol Kavy
Cc: linux-newbie@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IRQ Tracing Problem in Linux 2.6.28 Kernel
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Sol Kavy <skavy@ubicom.com> wrote:
> The following back trace represents a deadlock in Ubicom's SMP port of 2.6.28 kernel. I am sure that we are doing something unexpected. I would appreciate the community's help in understanding what is going wrong.
>
> Thanks in advance for any pointers,
>
> Sol Kavy
>
> Problem:
> Ubicom's initial port does not use GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS. Instead it uses a periodic timer based on HZ. The periodic timer calls do_timer() on each tick.
>
> From the arch directory perspective, we are required to hold the xtime_lock before calling do_timer(). The lock is indeed help by cpu 3 as evidenced in the output below.
>
> The call to get_jiffies_64() at the top of the backtrace is attempting to read the jiffies in a reliable fashion. The caller is required to wait for the xtime_lock not to be held. Clearly, since we are in a path that is holding the xtime_lock, this will never make forward progress.
>
> What is unclear to me is why other ports are not seeing the same problem?
>
> Perhaps it is because most ports now set GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS which uses an entirely different mechanism for doing things. I am in the middle of switching the port to use GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS but would like to understand this failure in more detail.
>
> Any feedback is greatly appreciated,
>
> Sol
>
> Config Flags:
> # CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS is not set
> CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS=y
> CONFIG_IRQ_PER_CPU=y
> CONFIG_TRACE_IRQFLAGS_SUPPORT=y
> # CONFIG_DEBUG_SHIRQ is not set
> CONFIG_TRACE_IRQFLAGS=y
> CONFIG_IRQSOFF_TRACER=y
>
> State of the lock:
> (gdb) p xtime_lock
> $5 = {sequence = 47089, lock = {raw_lock = {lock = 1}, magic = 3735899821,
> owner_cpu = 3, owner = 0x42b01160}}
>
> This is a backtrace from CPU 3:
>
> (gdb) bt
> #0 get_jiffies_64 () at include/linux/seqlock.h:94
> #1 0x4044f558 in sched_clock () at kernel/sched_clock.c:40
> #2 0x4045f108 in ring_buffer_time_stamp (cpu=3) at kernel/trace/ring_buffer.c:58
> #3 0x40464c50 in ftrace_now (cpu=3) at kernel/trace/trace.c:77
> #4 0x404656ec in trace_hardirqs_off () at kernel/trace/trace_irqsoff.c:207
> #5 0x40413020 in _spin_lock_irqsave (lock=0x3) at kernel/spinlock.c:82
> #6 0x40451b2c in clocksource_get_next () at kernel/time/clocksource.c:254
> #7 0x3ffd08ac in update_wall_time () at kernel/time/timekeeping.c:182
> #8 0x4043bcd8 in do_timer (ticks=0) at kernel/timer.c:1125
> #9 0x404169f8 in timer_tick (irq=<value optimized out>,
> dummy=<value optimized out>) at arch/ubicom32/kernel/time.c:126
> #10 0x3ffcefb0 in handle_IRQ_event (irq=<value optimized out>,
> action=0x406fe6f4) at kernel/irq/handle.c:142
> #11 0x3ffcee20 in __do_IRQ (irq=<value optimized out>)
> at kernel/irq/handle.c:239
> #12 0x3ffcfcc8 in do_IRQ (irq=47089, regs=<value optimized out>)
> at arch/ubicom32/kernel/irq.c:250
> #13 0x4041018c in sys_call_table ()
> #14 0x4044f558 in sched_clock () at kernel/sched_clock.c:40
> #15 0x00000008 in ?? ()
>
>
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Hi Sol,
Caveat: I'm not familiar with porting Linux :)
get_jiffies_64 does attempt to acquire xtime_lock, but since you know
the lock is already held in do_timer, can you simply read the value
directly? You'll just have to make sure every code path through
sched_clock() has xtime_lock...
Here is an example from the lxr that might be relevant:
http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.29/arch/frv/kernel/time.c#L151
Gedare Bloom
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* RE: IRQ Tracing Problem in Linux 2.6.28 Kernel
2009-04-13 22:00 IRQ Tracing Problem in Linux 2.6.28 Kernel Sol Kavy
2009-04-14 12:51 ` Gedare Bloom
@ 2009-04-14 22:58 ` Sol Kavy
2009-04-15 3:06 ` Peter Teoh
2009-04-24 15:50 ` Jeffrey Cao
2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sol Kavy @ 2009-04-14 22:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sol Kavy, linux-newbie
I have discovered why other architectures do not have the same problem. The back trace indicates a real defect (i.e. deadlock) in the generic code.
Most architectures override sched_clock() with their own version. Kernel/sched_clock.c:38 is a weak alias that will be overridden if an arch directory supplies its own.
Most of the arch directories provide an implementation that directly access the jiffies_64 variable "without" acquiring the xtime_lock.
Some of the implementations provide a "poor" implementation in that the value of the jiffies_64 during a 32 rollover is not taken into account. If sched_clock() is to be called while holding xtime_lock, the core implementation should be modified not to call get_jiffies_64() (which requires the xlock) but to use something like the following:
unsigned long long sched_clock(void)
{
unsigned long long my_jiffies;
unsigned long jiffies_top;
unsigned long jiffies_bottom;
do {
jiffies_top = jiffies_64 >> 32;
jiffies_bottom = jiffies_64 & 0xffffffff;
} while(unlikely(jiffies_top != (unsigned long)(jiffies_64 >> 32)));
my_jiffies = ((unsigned long long)jiffies_top << 32) | (jiffies_bottom);
return (my_jiffies - INITIAL_JIFFIES) * (NSEC_PER_SEC / HZ);
}
-----Original Message-----
From: linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Sol Kavy
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:01 PM
To: linux-newbie@vger.kernel.org
Subject: IRQ Tracing Problem in Linux 2.6.28 Kernel
The following back trace represents a deadlock in Ubicom's SMP port of 2.6.28 kernel. I am sure that we are doing something unexpected. I would appreciate the community's help in understanding what is going wrong.
Thanks in advance for any pointers,
Sol Kavy
Problem:
Ubicom's initial port does not use GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS. Instead it uses a periodic timer based on HZ. The periodic timer calls do_timer() on each tick.
From the arch directory perspective, we are required to hold the xtime_lock before calling do_timer(). The lock is indeed help by cpu 3 as evidenced in the output below.
The call to get_jiffies_64() at the top of the backtrace is attempting to read the jiffies in a reliable fashion. The caller is required to wait for the xtime_lock not to be held. Clearly, since we are in a path that is holding the xtime_lock, this will never make forward progress.
What is unclear to me is why other ports are not seeing the same problem?
Perhaps it is because most ports now set GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS which uses an entirely different mechanism for doing things. I am in the middle of switching the port to use GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS but would like to understand this failure in more detail.
Any feedback is greatly appreciated,
Sol
Config Flags:
# CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS is not set
CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS=y
CONFIG_IRQ_PER_CPU=y
CONFIG_TRACE_IRQFLAGS_SUPPORT=y
# CONFIG_DEBUG_SHIRQ is not set
CONFIG_TRACE_IRQFLAGS=y
CONFIG_IRQSOFF_TRACER=y
State of the lock:
(gdb) p xtime_lock
$5 = {sequence = 47089, lock = {raw_lock = {lock = 1}, magic = 3735899821,
owner_cpu = 3, owner = 0x42b01160}}
This is a backtrace from CPU 3:
(gdb) bt
#0 get_jiffies_64 () at include/linux/seqlock.h:94
#1 0x4044f558 in sched_clock () at kernel/sched_clock.c:40
#2 0x4045f108 in ring_buffer_time_stamp (cpu=3) at kernel/trace/ring_buffer.c:58
#3 0x40464c50 in ftrace_now (cpu=3) at kernel/trace/trace.c:77
#4 0x404656ec in trace_hardirqs_off () at kernel/trace/trace_irqsoff.c:207
#5 0x40413020 in _spin_lock_irqsave (lock=0x3) at kernel/spinlock.c:82
#6 0x40451b2c in clocksource_get_next () at kernel/time/clocksource.c:254
#7 0x3ffd08ac in update_wall_time () at kernel/time/timekeeping.c:182
#8 0x4043bcd8 in do_timer (ticks=0) at kernel/timer.c:1125
#9 0x404169f8 in timer_tick (irq=<value optimized out>,
dummy=<value optimized out>) at arch/ubicom32/kernel/time.c:126
#10 0x3ffcefb0 in handle_IRQ_event (irq=<value optimized out>,
action=0x406fe6f4) at kernel/irq/handle.c:142
#11 0x3ffcee20 in __do_IRQ (irq=<value optimized out>)
at kernel/irq/handle.c:239
#12 0x3ffcfcc8 in do_IRQ (irq=47089, regs=<value optimized out>)
at arch/ubicom32/kernel/irq.c:250
#13 0x4041018c in sys_call_table ()
#14 0x4044f558 in sched_clock () at kernel/sched_clock.c:40
#15 0x00000008 in ?? ()
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* Re: IRQ Tracing Problem in Linux 2.6.28 Kernel
2009-04-14 22:58 ` Sol Kavy
@ 2009-04-15 3:06 ` Peter Teoh
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Peter Teoh @ 2009-04-15 3:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sol Kavy; +Cc: linux-newbie
Just my guess......
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Sol Kavy <skavy@ubicom.com> wrote:
>
> I have discovered why other architectures do not have the same problem. The back trace indicates a real defect (i.e. deadlock) in the generic code.
>
> Most architectures override sched_clock() with their own version. Kernel/sched_clock.c:38 is a weak alias that will be overridden if an arch directory supplies its own.
>
> Most of the arch directories provide an implementation that directly access the jiffies_64 variable "without" acquiring the xtime_lock.
>
> Some of the implementations provide a "poor" implementation in that the value of the jiffies_64 during a 32 rollover is not taken into account. If sched_clock() is to be called while holding xtime_lock, the core implementation should be modified not to call get_jiffies_64() (which requires the xlock) but to use something like the following:
>
> unsigned long long sched_clock(void)
> {
> unsigned long long my_jiffies;
> unsigned long jiffies_top;
> unsigned long jiffies_bottom;
>
> do {
> jiffies_top = jiffies_64 >> 32;
> jiffies_bottom = jiffies_64 & 0xffffffff;
in general this type of operation is only done when u are in 32bit
mode. In 64bit mode, u can do it in ONE atomic assembly
instruction.....so no locking needed.
> } while(unlikely(jiffies_top != (unsigned long)(jiffies_64 >> 32)));
>
> my_jiffies = ((unsigned long long)jiffies_top << 32) | (jiffies_bottom);
> return (my_jiffies - INITIAL_JIFFIES) * (NSEC_PER_SEC / HZ);
> }
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* Re: IRQ Tracing Problem in Linux 2.6.28 Kernel
2009-04-13 22:00 IRQ Tracing Problem in Linux 2.6.28 Kernel Sol Kavy
2009-04-14 12:51 ` Gedare Bloom
2009-04-14 22:58 ` Sol Kavy
@ 2009-04-24 15:50 ` Jeffrey Cao
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jeffrey Cao @ 2009-04-24 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
On 2009-04-13, Sol Kavy <skavy@ubicom.com> wrote:
> The following back trace represents a deadlock in Ubicom's SMP port of 2.6.28 kernel. I am sure that we are doing something unexpected. I would appreciate the community's help in understanding what is going wrong.
>
> Thanks in advance for any pointers,
>
> Sol Kavy
>
> Problem:
> Ubicom's initial port does not use GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS. Instead it uses a periodic timer based on HZ. The periodic timer calls do_timer() on each tick.
>
> From the arch directory perspective, we are required to hold the xtime_lock before calling do_timer(). The lock is indeed help by cpu 3 as evidenced in the output below.
>
> The call to get_jiffies_64() at the top of the backtrace is attempting to read the jiffies in a reliable fashion. The caller is required to wait for the xtime_lock not to be held. Clearly, since we are in a path that is holding the xtime_lock, this will never make forward progress.
For x86 arch, function get_jiffies_64() seems not to wait the xtime_lock,
but to do something related to CPU ordering:
get_jiffies_64()
|->read_seqbegin()
|->smp_rmb()
|->alternative("lock; addl $0,0(%%esp)", "lfence", X86_FEATURE_XMM2)
I'm not sure if this is the same as to accquire xtime_lock spinlock. Maybe this
is a point you need check.
Jeffrey
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