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From: Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@nokia.com>
To: ext Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	"linux-next@vger.kernel.org" <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Subject: Re: linux-next: workqueues tree build failure
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:31:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200911261131.15155.peter.ujfalusi@nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B0E467A.8080201@kernel.org>

On Thursday 26 November 2009 11:12:26 ext Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 11/26/2009 05:16 PM, Peter Ujfalusi wrote:
> >> Takashi, RT workqueue is going away.  Do you really need it?
> >
> > What can be used instead of RT workqueue?
> > The tlv320dac33 needs RT workqueue because I need to send the I2C
> > command with minimum delay to the codec. If this can not be done
> > (the workqueue is delayed), and the codec does not receive the
> > command in time, it will literally die.  What are the options to
> > replace the RT workqueue?
> 
> The problem with RT workqueue is that RT and queue don't really mix
> well.  To act in real time, it requires all the resource pre-allocated
> and dedicated to it making queueing or pooling meaningless.  The
> original workqueue code created dedicated pool of threads for each
> workqueue so it could be used for RT but new implementation uses
> shared worker pool, so it can't be used as an interface to dedicated
> threads.
> 
> I haven't read the code but,
> 
> * If you need to respond fast, wouldn't you be doing that from IRQ
>   handler or softirq?  Do you need task context?

I2C communication can not be done in interrupt context.
I'll take a look at the threaded IRQ, but AFAIK it is just a wrapper to use the 
global workqueue (I'm not sure, I have not actually checked it).
For a quick fix, I can convert the tlv320dac33 driver to use this, and revisit 
later, if it does not fulfill the timing requirements for the HW.

> 
> * Or is it that it's not triggered by IRQ but once the transfer
>   started it can't be interrupted?  But in this case preempt_disable()
>   or local_irq_disable() should suffice.

As Takashi already commented, it is used as a BH.

> 
> Thanks.
> 

-- 
Péter

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-26  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-26  8:00 linux-next: workqueues tree build failure Stephen Rothwell
2009-11-26  8:04 ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-26  8:16   ` Peter Ujfalusi
2009-11-26  9:12     ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-26  9:24       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-11-26  9:31       ` Peter Ujfalusi [this message]
2009-11-26 10:18         ` Mark Brown
2009-11-26 11:44           ` Peter Ujfalusi
2009-11-26 12:49             ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 13:23               ` Peter Ujfalusi
2009-11-26 12:40       ` Andy Walls
2009-11-26 12:56         ` Mark Brown
2009-11-27  2:02         ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-27  8:37           ` Takashi Iwai
2009-11-27  8:42             ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-27 10:09               ` Peter Ujfalusi
2009-11-27 11:38                 ` Mark Brown
2009-11-27 13:50           ` Andy Walls

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