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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Cc: Linus <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-next@vger.kernel.org, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	"\"J??rn Engel\"" <joern@logfs.org>
Subject: Re: linux-next: current pending merge fix patches
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:10:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100301081021.GB8049@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100301160445.5e281f11.sfr@canb.auug.org.au>


* Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:

> This could also be taken as a reminder to the respective maintiners that 
> they may want to do a merge of your tree before asking you to pull theirs.

I dont think that's generally correct for trivial conflicts: it's better if 
Linus does the merge of a tree that is based in some stable tree.

It causes slightly messier criss-cross history: there will be the back-merge 
commit plus the inevitable merge commit from Linus. It also makes bisection a 
bit messier:

For example when bisecting i generally consider the 'boundary' of where Linus 
pulls as a 'known point of stability': i.e. the 'subsystem side' is expected 
to be well-tested and if there's a problem on that side, it's that subsystem's 
domain.

"Linus's side", during the merge window, is a rolling tree of many freshly 
merged trees, which inevitably piles up a few problems.

So it's IMO somewhat better to keep that boundary and not push out Linus's 
side into subsystem trees: which then may merge a few new patches after having 
merged Linus's tree, intermixing it all into a non-bisectable combination.

Plus there's also an indirect effect: it keeps people from merging back 
Linus's tree all the time.

So i'd argue to not backmerge during the merge window (and i have stopped 
doing that myself a few cycles ago, and it clearly helped things) - but in any 
case it's certainly no big deal and up to Linus i guess.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-01  8:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-01  5:04 linux-next: current pending merge fix patches Stephen Rothwell
2010-03-01  8:10 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-03-01  8:55   ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-03-01  9:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01  8:56   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01  9:19     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 15:17 ` Pekka Enberg

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