From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Cc: Linus <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-next@vger.kernel.org, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>, J??rn Engel <joern@logfs.org>
Subject: Re: linux-next: current pending merge fix patches
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:56:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100301085613.GA2867@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100301081021.GB8049@elte.hu>
* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> So i'd argue to not backmerge during the merge window (and i have stopped
> doing that myself a few cycles ago, and it clearly helped things) - but in
> any case it's certainly no big deal and up to Linus i guess.
What i do instead is that once Linus pulls from me i pull back immediately to
test, and if it's fine i base further subsystem patches on that and test the
heck out of the combination from that point on.
That's the collective 'point of no looking back' when subsystem people should
jump in and help out testing the "final" combination.
But if a subsystem tree backmerges during the merge window any sooner
(_before_ Linus pulls), it can cause criss-cross merges (as Linus may not pull
or may pull later during which fixes arrive, etc.), creating a less readable
history, etc. - which may make integration and problem isolation somewhat
harder in the end.
( It's not a big deal in isolation and i dont think Linus actually rejects
trees that do the occasional backmerge - but the combination of many small
deals can have a bigger effect. )
There are exceptions, such as tricky conflicts that i know to be problematic -
in that case i occasionally backmerge. But it's relatively rare - 90%+ of the
conflicts are trivial and all-or-nothing affairs (i.e. if you mess it up the
kernel wont work very well, so it's immediately noticeable).
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-01 8:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-01 5:04 linux-next: current pending merge fix patches Stephen Rothwell
2010-03-01 8:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 8:55 ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-03-01 9:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 8:56 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-03-01 9:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 15:17 ` Pekka Enberg
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