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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Qian Cai <cai@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Next Mailing List <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Subject: Re: [tip: locking/core] lockdep: Fix lockdep recursion
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:11:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201014221152.GS3249@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201014215319.GF2974@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 11:53:19PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 11:34:05AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > commit 7deaa04b02298001426730ed0e6214ac20d1a1c1
> > Author: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> > Date:   Tue Oct 13 12:39:23 2020 -0700
> > 
> >     rcu: Prevent lockdep-RCU splats on lock acquisition/release
> >     
> >     The rcu_cpu_starting() and rcu_report_dead() functions transition the
> >     current CPU between online and offline state from an RCU perspective.
> >     Unfortunately, this means that the rcu_cpu_starting() function's lock
> >     acquisition and the rcu_report_dead() function's lock releases happen
> >     while the CPU is offline from an RCU perspective, which can result in
> >     lockdep-RCU splats about using RCU from an offline CPU.  In reality,
> >     aside from the splats, both transitions are safe because a new grace
> >     period cannot start until these functions release their locks.
> 
> But we call the trace_* crud before we acquire the lock. Are you sure
> that's a false-positive? 

You lost me on this one.

I am assuming that you are talking about rcu_cpu_starting(), because
that is the one where RCU is not initially watching, that is, the
case where tracing before the lock acquisition would be a problem.
You cannot be talking about rcu_cpu_starting() itself, because it does
not do any tracing before acquiring the lock.  But if you are talking
about the caller of rcu_cpu_starting(), then that caller should put the
rcu_cpu_starting() before the tracing.  But that would be the other
patch earlier in this thread that was proposing moving the call to
rcu_cpu_starting() much earlier in CPU bringup.

So what am I missing here?

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-14 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <160223032121.7002.1269740091547117869.tip-bot2@tip-bot2>
2020-10-09 13:41 ` [tip: locking/core] lockdep: Fix lockdep recursion Qian Cai
2020-10-09 13:58   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-09 15:30     ` Qian Cai
2020-10-09 16:11       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-09 16:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-09 16:37       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-09 17:36       ` Qian Cai
2020-10-09 17:50         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-09 17:54         ` Qian Cai
2020-10-09 18:21           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-12  3:11   ` Boqun Feng
2020-10-12 14:14     ` Qian Cai
2020-10-12 21:28     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-13 10:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-13 10:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-13 11:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-13 16:26             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-13 19:30               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-14 18:34                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-14 21:53                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-14 22:11                     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2020-10-14 22:39                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-14 23:55                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-15  3:41                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-15  9:49                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-15  9:50                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-15 16:15                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-15  9:52                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-15 16:20                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-15 16:15                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-15 17:23                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-13 16:15           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-13 10:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-13 16:24       ` Boqun Feng
2020-10-27 19:31     ` Qian Cai
2020-10-28  3:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-28 14:39         ` Qian Cai
2020-10-28 15:53           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-28 20:08             ` Qian Cai
2020-10-28 21:02               ` Paul E. McKenney

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