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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Next Mailing List <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: linux-next: manual merge of the rcu tree with the ftrace tree
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 17:00:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251114160017.CrDJHi5w@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251114104633.0721bdbe@gandalf.local.home>

On 2025-11-14 10:46:33 [-0500], Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2025 14:35:32 +0100
> Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
> 
> > On 2025-11-14 07:42:55 [-0500], Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > > diff --cc kernel/trace/trace_syscalls.c
> > > > index e96d0063cbcf,3f699b198c56..000000000000
> > > > --- a/kernel/trace/trace_syscalls.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/trace/trace_syscalls.c
> > > > @@@ -878,6 -322,8 +890,7 @@@ static void ftrace_syscall_enter(void *
> > > >   	 * buffer and per-cpu data require preemption to be disabled.
> > > >   	 */
> > > >   	might_fault();
> > > > + 	preempt_rt_guard();
> > > >  -	guard(preempt_notrace)();  
> > > 
> > > My code made it so that preemption is not needed here but is moved later
> > > down for the logic that does the reading of user space data.
> > > 
> > > Note, it must have preemption disabled for all configs (including RT).
> > > Otherwise, the data it has can get corrupted.
> > > 
> > > Paul, can you change it so that you *do not* touch this file?  
> > 
> > Where is preempt_rt_guard() from?
> 
> Ah, it's from the patch I submitted that has this:
> 
> +/*
> + * When PREEMPT_RT is enabled, it disables migration instead
> + * of preemption. The pseudo syscall trace events need to match
> + * so that the counter logic recorded into he ring buffer by
> + * trace_event_buffer_reserve() still matches what it expects.
> + */
> +#ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT
> +# define preempt_rt_guard()  guard(migrate)()
> +#else
> +# define preempt_rt_guard()
> +#endif
> +
> 
> I must be getting old, as I forgot I wrote this :-p
> 
> I only saw the update from Stephen and thought it was disabling preemption.

but having both is kind of gross. Also the mapping from
preempt_rt_guard() to guard(migrate)() only on RT is kind of far.

> It doesn't disable preemption, but is here to keep the latency
> preempt_count counting the same in both PREEMPT_RT and non PREEMPT_RT. You
> know, the stuff that shows up in the trace:
> 
>   "d..4."

urgh.

We did that to match the reality with the tracer. Since the tracer
disabled preemption we decremented the counter from preempt_count to
record what was there before the trace point started changing it.
That was tracing_gen_ctx_dec(). Now I see we have something similar in
tracing_gen_ctx_dec_cond().
But why do we need to disable migration here? Why isn't !RT affected by
this. I remember someone had a trace where the NMI was set and migrate
disable was at max which sounds like someone decremented the
migrate_disable counter while migration wasn't disabled…

> Paul, never mind, this code will not affect the code I added.
> 
> -- Steve

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-14 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-14  2:52 linux-next: manual merge of the rcu tree with the ftrace tree Stephen Rothwell
2025-11-14 12:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 13:35   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-14 15:46     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 16:00       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2025-11-14 16:22         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 16:33           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-14 16:48             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 17:02               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-14 17:11                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 17:00             ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-14 17:10               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-14 17:25                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-14 17:40                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 17:41                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-14 18:26                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-14 14:48   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-14 16:01     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 17:06     ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-14 18:58       ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-18 13:05       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-18 15:04         ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-12-02  0:57           ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-12-07 20:43             ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-12-08  0:17               ` Steven Rostedt
2025-12-08  4:21                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-14 17:05   ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-14 18:31     ` Yonghong Song
2025-11-18  7:35       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-18 15:05         ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-30 18:49         ` Yonghong Song
2025-11-19  0:38     ` Paul E. McKenney
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-11-06  1:24 Stephen Rothwell
2017-05-01  3:18 Stephen Rothwell

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