From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Next Mailing List <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: linux-next: manual merge of the rcu tree with the ftrace tree
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 17:33:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251114163330.pi9Nm3Vb@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251114112202.08e1e3c1@gandalf.local.home>
On 2025-11-14 11:22:02 [-0500], Steven Rostedt wrote:
> It's to match this code:
>
> --- a/include/linux/tracepoint.h
> +++ b/include/linux/tracepoint.h
> @@ -100,6 +100,25 @@ void for_each_tracepoint_in_module(struct module *mod,
> }
> #endif /* CONFIG_MODULES */
>
> +/*
> + * BPF programs can attach to the tracepoint callbacks. But if the
> + * callbacks are called with preemption disabled, the BPF programs
> + * can cause quite a bit of latency. When PREEMPT_RT is enabled,
> + * instead of disabling preemption, use srcu_fast_notrace() for
> + * synchronization. As BPF programs that are attached to tracepoints
> + * expect to stay on the same CPU, also disable migration.
> + */
> +#ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT
> +extern struct srcu_struct tracepoint_srcu;
> +# define tracepoint_sync() synchronize_srcu(&tracepoint_srcu);
> +# define tracepoint_guard() \
> + guard(srcu_fast_notrace)(&tracepoint_srcu); \
> + guard(migrate)()
> +#else
> +# define tracepoint_sync() synchronize_rcu();
> +# define tracepoint_guard() guard(preempt_notrace)()
> +#endif
> +
>
> Where in PREEMPT_RT we do not disable preemption around the tracepoint
> callback, but in non RT we do. Instead it uses a srcu and migrate disable.
I appreciate the effort. I really do. But why can't we have SRCU on both
configs?
Also why does tracepoint_guard() need to disable migration? The BPF
program already disables migrations (see for instance
bpf_prog_run_array()).
This is true for RT and !RT. So there is no need to do it here.
> The migrate_disable in the syscall tracepoint (which gets called by the
> system call version that doesn't disable migration, even in RT), needs to
> disable migration so that the accounting that happens in:
>
> trace_event_buffer_reserve()
>
> matches what happens when that function gets called by a normal tracepoint
> callback.
buh. But this is something. If we know that the call chain does not
disable migration, couldn't we just use a different function? I mean we
have tracing_gen_ctx_dec() and tracing_gen_ctx)(). Wouldn't this work
for migrate_disable(), too?
Just in case we need it and can not avoid it, see above.
> -- Steve
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-14 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-14 2:52 linux-next: manual merge of the rcu tree with the ftrace tree Stephen Rothwell
2025-11-14 12:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 13:35 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-14 15:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 16:00 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-14 16:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 16:33 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2025-11-14 16:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 17:02 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-14 17:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 17:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-14 17:10 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-14 17:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-14 17:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 17:41 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-14 18:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-14 14:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-14 16:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-14 17:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-14 18:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-18 13:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-18 15:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-12-02 0:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-12-07 20:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-12-08 0:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-12-08 4:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-14 17:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-14 18:31 ` Yonghong Song
2025-11-18 7:35 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-18 15:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-30 18:49 ` Yonghong Song
2025-11-19 0:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
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2025-11-06 1:24 Stephen Rothwell
2017-05-01 3:18 Stephen Rothwell
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