From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BB4F476689; Wed, 12 Aug 2026 15:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1786550378; cv=none; b=dutTXkM8I3UnSB0ilHmx0kB+1U0VVPvvpwtsDY8uzUoc0imBHW4HRcRtNTtOj2hbT5empR9lxUCZMkl0F8aM+xbAYV0+6qrUNzOH/UkpR6GvfSnH24oCPm94STyrbR/rtyeXb66GT07vebB792bCl8+sO6xHRcNFoJxggV5EzAU= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1786550378; c=relaxed/simple; bh=4UtsdmhHOz4+CfNG1LFd/YTv8e1FCYmWcxWqVHJJNro=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=tm6Fo4E8AgEZ3FcwsVSOLLbiuQz+RLRRjOXuUpmxPh9SIoH1bPijT8oxyDlogOfXhaPBi2DftSHSl/zwGMfWAvc1ybqO5/mamIjpg5Qp1r2bpul5tHdhje/du182y4UkTXV/ewvFPaqTOFlJdBLacd4nVAOsLW3/OKuaxNutYyM= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=FLkjl6uE; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="FLkjl6uE" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AEED91F000E9; Wed, 12 Aug 2026 15:59:35 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1786550377; bh=dVrURgH2KpXxgvHO/qTtIsF9Joxm5i6JVe3Cni4GjYk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=FLkjl6uE/ogjuVHjuZ3SY1v0h2W23kN0jLq3gbpveOmPmwIwTQBlNvG4q7Ej+fQlN zcx8ZnE4931h25Lao78faAojuZ7wSXgJ4oTl0VNsDkhU0DtsUVopSxu/nMMCZhKXqE b5o6pSjw25JGtoI3oRcP90kGPRxoS/PxxEkpJ4794HtQHwXeEqGW/knbJkWJR7/KbZ 7Ix50IxqTETcadVYv3mvZrUFxo8v01GyN/EP4JLgDEBeiBvgrrP6L6t5gRCCm4piYS 1hhD7AGyPZbdDBPoAahyDOily+X6eC9gEz+FrwF/DSqnOyZxjA91FgSohIxw+ZSsLR 2BPla1KNOPXjg== Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2026 16:59:32 +0100 From: Lee Jones To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Breno Leitao , Mark Brown , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Thierry Reding , linux-next@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Any feedback for -next? Message-ID: <20260812155932.GV1072730@google.com> References: <1025da50-3e21-43c7-a761-4f65ed5e5069@sirena.org.uk> <20260812112723.643f9502@gandalf.local.home> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-next@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20260812112723.643f9502@gandalf.local.home> On Wed, 12 Aug 2026, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 04:42:21 -0700 > Breno Leitao wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 05:54:59PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > > Any other ideas? > > > > I'm new to this area, so please forgive what might be a silly > > question: would it make sense for maintainers' -next trees to keep > > a stable git history? > > > > Some maintainer trees are already stable and append-only, which > > gives linux-next users/testers stable commits to point to, instead > > of ephemeral commits that can disappear later due to history > > rewrites. > > > > Would getting rid of these ephemeral commits make linux-next easier > > to work with? > > This has come up at the Maintainers Summit in the past. I believe it is > even in the article I posted earlier in another thread. > > https://lwn.net/Articles/1050027/ > > We are even discussing issues about this in that other thread as well: > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/0a8c1e90-1de1-4a76-b0fa-e367a4bd4f55@sirena.org.uk/ > > I try to keep my linux-next branch clean, but I do rebase to add tags. I do > on occasion remove commits if they prove to be totally broken. That's rare > but I rather have that then having to push something to Linus where a bunch > of commits are simply reverted. +1 FWIW, I have always reserved the right to rebase in order to remove, move around, reword and otherwise fix-up commits and do so often. To that end my 'next' branches are not, have ever been, nor do I intend them to ever be, stable. -- Lee Jones