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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Fr??d??ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-next@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: linux-next: percpu tree build warning
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:31:00 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B0F7224.9020509@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091127062001.GA22149@elte.hu>

Hello, Ingo.
> At least to me a typo like this would stick out like a sore thumb during 
> review.

Yeah, maybe, but it still shows why reusing the same name for global
and local variables behind compiler's back is a bad idea.

> I'd recognize &reg1 as a stack local variable immediately, and when i 
> see it being used in this_cpu_inc() i'd go 'huh' immediately.
> 
> OTOH, the two examples of confusion i gave you in my previous mail would 
> be far less obvious. The 'visual distance' to a percpu variable 
> definition is greater (it's at least file scope in 95% of the cases), so 
> i wouldnt be able to 'see' which the percpu variables are, from a code 
> context.

With proper __percpu annotations (which we desparately need for
dynamic percpu pointers anyway) the 'visual distance' should remain
fine in most cases, I think.

If we can manage the separate namespace thing without adding confusion
regarding different types of accessors and the actually non-existing
but yet visible differences between static and dynamic percpu
variables, I think it would be good.  But it costs us quite a bit and
__percpu sparse annotation has almost complete coverage over the issue
including the visible queue telling that something is percpu.  So,
given that, to me __percpu seems like a much better way to do it.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-27  6:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-25 10:42 linux-next: percpu tree build warning Stephen Rothwell
2009-11-25 10:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-25 11:14   ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-25 11:58     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-25 12:39       ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-25 12:31   ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-25 13:40     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-25 15:12       ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-26 22:16       ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-27  5:41         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-27  5:57           ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-27  6:20             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-27  6:31               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2009-11-27  6:32                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-28  9:51           ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-29  6:40             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-30  0:31               ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-25 13:24   ` [PATCH] x86: rename global percpu symbol dr7 to cpu_dr7 Tejun Heo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-12  6:45 linux-next: percpu tree build warning Stephen Rothwell
2009-11-12 15:16 ` Christoph Lameter

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