From: "Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>
To: Bert Karwatzki <spasswolf@web.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org,
linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>,
Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: loading amd-pstate-ut kernel module crashes with PREEMPT_RT
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 12:25:23 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJRN2wMLAnhDFykv@BLRRASHENOY1.amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d501ba67cbae1113c50fccf97155c1fa67a533ae.camel@web.de>
Hello Bert,
On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 08:52:01PM +0200, Bert Karwatzki wrote:
> Am Dienstag, dem 05.08.2025 um 22:52 +0530 schrieb Gautham R. Shenoy:
> > Hello Bert,
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 11:23:15AM +0200, Bert Karwatzki wrote:
> > > When loading the amd-pstate-ut kernel module (which is supposed to test
> > > the amd-pstate cpufreq driver) the following crash occurs (most of the
> > > time the loading has to be repeated several times):
> >
> > Thank you for reporting this. I haven't run amd-pstate with PREEMPT_RT
> > yet. But for the following issue to occur, we need the schedutil()
> > governor's sugov_update_single_perf() (which will eventually acquire
> > the read side of the cpufreq_driver_lock) to race with some call that
> > acquires the cpufreq_driver_lock on the write-side, thus forcing the
> > read-side to take the slowpath which can block on PREEMPT_RT .
> >
> > The amd-pstate-ut has the amd_pstate_ut_check_driver() which will test
> > switching between one mode to another. These mode-switches involve
> > unregistering the driver, and that callpath involves write-acquire of
> > the cpufreq_driver_lock.
> >
> > So the race should potentially occur when the following code-path
> > through the amd_pstate_ut_check_driver()
> >
> >
> > amd_pstate_ut_check_driver()
> > > -> amd_pstate_set_mode()
> > |-> amd_pstate_update_status()
> > |-> cpufreq_unregister_driver()
> > |->subsys_interface_unregister()
> > |-> cpufreq_remove_dev()
> > |-> cpufreq_policy_free(policy-cpu-X)
> > |-> write_lock_irqsave(&cpufreq_driver_lock)
> >
> > running concurrently with the schedutil governor on another CPU.
> >
> > sysvec_apic_timer_interrupt()
> > > -> try_to_wake_up()
> > |-> ttwu_do_activate()
> > |-> enqueue_task_fair()
> > |-> enqueue_entity()
> > |-> update_load_avg()
> > |->sugov_update_single_freq()
> > |-> amd_pstate_adjust_perf()
> > |->cpufreq_cpu_get(on CPU Y)
> > |-> read_lock_irqsave(&cpufreq_driver_lock)
> >
> >
> > Here, the read_lock_irqsave() has to take a slow-path in the presence
> > of the writer, which can sleep on PREEMPT_RT. But this is illegal as
> > this is invoked from the interrupt context.
> >
> > Can you please check if you can generate the same lock-up with the
> > following script without relying on the amd-pstate-ut driver?
> >
> > -------------x8------------------x8------------------------------
> > #!/bin/bash
> >
> > while ((1));
> > do
> > echo "disable" > /sys/device/system/cpu/amd_pstate/status;
> > echo "guided" > /sys/device/system/cpu/amd_pstate/status;
> > done
> > -------------x8------------------x8------------------------------
> >
>
> Yes, this script also causes the system to lock up.
Thank you for confirming this. Let me see if we can delink the
cpufreq_driver_lock can be delinked w.r.t access and freeing of the
cpufreq policy object.
>
> Bert Karwatzki
> >
--
Thanks and Regards
gautham.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-07 6:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-31 9:23 loading amd-pstate-ut kernel module crashes with PREEMPT_RT Bert Karwatzki
2025-08-05 17:22 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2025-08-06 18:52 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-08-07 6:55 ` Gautham R. Shenoy [this message]
2025-08-08 10:50 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
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