From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: Request for linux-next inclusion of the voyager tree Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <1244477423.4079.228.camel@mulgrave.site> <20090609202130.GA5291@elte.hu> <20090610004126.491508c9@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090609235647.GE23846@elte.hu> <20090610003055.GA26492@elte.hu> <20090610010014.GA28345@elte.hu> <1244644726.4109.30.camel@mulgrave.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Return-path: Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:48265 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755308AbZFJPUd (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:20:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1244644726.4109.30.camel@mulgrave.site> Sender: linux-next-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: To: James Bottomley Cc: Ingo Molnar , Alan Cox , Thomas Gleixner , "H. Peter Anvin" , Andrew Morton , Stephen Rothwell , linux-next@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, James Bottomley wrote: > > If I go the merge point route, I get a tree with more non trivial merge > points than commits, so it becomes incredibly difficult for anyone to > follow what's going on. I also can no longer use git-email to send my > patch series anywhere. Why do you need to merge at all? Do you get constant conflicts? If so, _that_ is likely the problem. The rule should be that you should _never_ need to merge from Ingo or me, and things should be smooth. And if there are too frequent conflicts for that to work, then the rule should be that things get cleaned up so that those conflicts don't happen! Constant rebasing, or constant merging, is a symptom of something simply not working. It's probably why Ingo is fed up with Voyager in the first place. Can you guys just start telling me what the actual maintenance problem is? Where do you actually step on each others toes? What are the conflicts? Why is Voyager so special? Linus