From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 927B042A82; Sat, 25 Jul 2026 13:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1784986064; cv=none; b=Un0iDsRHyEZMuF7FmTxaQM/fVRDUToBIefNzEvjIrCBMPSF9QeOzRs7iShvWkM+7kLil5rYzGzm4YxKsTWuLYa1k6N6UU8jZg+YHQyKCMzHfx2PmXIqABPhTFnJ2acEa9LD9RmkGigSe+rE2Zv7HERj9/iAlgY9T7owqz3zROBY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1784986064; c=relaxed/simple; bh=/to1rjadpksK4XQWfsm3T/QoMa5Xw97SYDHarnkWiHs=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=gj7ARF1jnYvFgvutqk9ThH3NPW61+u4IjMOC0OxLWv0MsRPmpO8zh5qHs7RcdfLfJZnYWI8tY96T7lkF5nEVA5aArpfZ3ZoQRSo3boTm1nTQ7jymoAPXDyuYzlX+BZxG66VDrVKO9Pftu8UJAbJxfRpQLWXo+Q9L9X0PGN2yj/E= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=K2DFFNVc; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="K2DFFNVc" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5365A1F00A3A; Sat, 25 Jul 2026 13:27:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1784986063; bh=DLa0W6gV/T9TlPHj2hdI7uZofez5WsCzHaYPnyN3eJs=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=K2DFFNVcm8FzZM1eii3TynAyJNtmVUi1BcVDm1btSK1ziJr4yYLP6RCtB9kYjmAZP TvO6k0Kurq85s48K0Ii4+I5B7mXhCHEfjcis2JHmlnsgqt5oRUuKxd7t00Uis7+FGY XkWO6uGIY42jn1bG8TXkHCw1uOyBAHrPQQMb+9gO6yN9QDpb/U8yTLu6kPbPfuUsEb GfdUTVQW/cGa1ueYs2GG6tDEnpCK9I9YBJQyI/P6uw0iJssP+bgkZiJnMWdaUwhwWe XPSJ+787IpAap2RJr3p6o9bM6WLhbmyyX+0l+QNvHqHjgYbnOKo9Qb67SRNxGKEvE/ h9uVMt22jbvgw== Received: from phl-compute-05.internal (phl-compute-05.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailfauth.phl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C104F4007B; Sat, 25 Jul 2026 09:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-frontend-04 ([10.202.2.163]) by phl-compute-05.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 25 Jul 2026 09:27:41 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: dmFkZTEzejr9NzN4aJiO9Qjz+N9200b6QV2kprsk8lSvq+D0q+COmwjvuB55FSA2CsGo9+ /lVrJrYSCoV8MSjoiRjc8dcfjPI8qLVmq1+CZJPaZ5uXt1PoFkdYF4VJsxcsKpvxbWsmlO KFn5Uo+oHh3djnWADngi6lVcPBTlpgf4qRYa6G2ZLhfko9cklKjX8HTcjrSuxZlS9QyEEo vTQng4kIh6xHVeE3ByBrqAgib0YA/iV/F48xfEH6pf8WTA8+TH1KEr6QBkZ81qeIKaridU ibTxun7/5//4pShFw8moTMiv6K3RJC74+imvkGbi7NVg0tnhlq0CB75gVet3q/nJWQzMA2 d7kIFVpgZ0RjRE2XxLp7nlm4A//R8owETEvKGtFzPH1M9qP6zB1O7Sz38iNsnmQ3eb3Mam yIa3KKwrYygFFYSE/6b+dAl2mcUQ3omtd2nK45xb1l2VUmH8wz+dqZjO0d1FwviY9rrJSf /2tuWfA1m3nPWP3ph5tslymAekdzdsWgOKom96/FOeaFdIqr+gD9b2vWiyz/ITs0F3ijFg a5mVEI9qUImAadJI+08WwEKKXTY0Dl8i0m0qGnMxs9J1Qt32L3acN7NV/2hNT9AILa8XlM Ktv9EgSpYqjvKrRotevjYCaOE4l4SH/h9yo+ub7/US8dAB0RhZ7/o5oUlEIQ X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i8dbe485b:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sat, 25 Jul 2026 09:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2026 06:27:37 -0700 From: Boqun Feng To: Tetsuo Handa Cc: Miguel Ojeda , Theodore Tso , Alexander Potapenko , Mark Brown , Christoph Hellwig , Aleksandr Nogikh , Gary Guo , linux-next@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Miguel Ojeda , Linus Torvalds , peterz@infradead.org, will@kernel.org, longman@redhat.com, mingo@kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: Policy regarding linux-next only changes Message-ID: References: <2c903636-532f-47b5-9894-00470f235682@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> <58689827-9211-4f26-9777-51c0b5e1eebb@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> <8c3d90d5-747e-451b-bdcb-1cfe1d5fce53@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> <468a1156-05c8-459a-a93e-b0a7d0aa1907@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-next@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <468a1156-05c8-459a-a93e-b0a7d0aa1907@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 07:38:25PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote: > On 2026/07/25 18:38, Miguel Ojeda wrote: > > No, what prevents you from debugging is that, from what you say, > > nobody is giving enough compute resources for your task. > > OK. Let's go back to https://lkml.kernel.org/r/bc3703bd-65ee-4182-a742-56603d9b9bac@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp . > > If I were able to use a kernel config option which minimizes impact for others, > the technical problem for my task will be solved. > > But including what kernel config options (or kernel command line parameters) I can use, there > hardly is a discussion from developers / maintainers. The last discussion was 6 years ago: > As I said [1], the reposting was stopped 6 years ago, and no one could read other's mind to know whether it's still worth discussing. > https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20200413063317.7164-1-penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp > https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20200307135822.3894-1-penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp > > Can we resume this discussion so that we can minimize surprising other developers / maintainers? > Yes, resending the patches, talking about it in a conference, or giving people a heads-up when planning to queue it via linux-next is the way to resume the discussion. Could you please do any of these? [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/akpxYEF2ZI7p1zn3@MacBook-0RXW5/ Regards, Boqun