From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 037C338229A; Wed, 12 Aug 2026 17:14:29 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1786554871; cv=none; b=qHxNG2D/il/a++bouak9ifBReCmSrk3xLbkFcKsK+GUNYYV85awSwqgbzdip8IGh+Q6qI0jMjFXbopGrxxsM6z8iy16rge2BMvV/ev0+iONjP8ccMM/H2nBP4f3EJcitKzx0cWcsztiOgb/A/NeOVHq5rEvZ189mthKp+yI2goA= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1786554871; c=relaxed/simple; bh=3HhxNPoI+zgcpyBXJ22I307Yi21WkNZvkAm0CzB+lE0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=t10adt37DVZ2m4aocijfoCQyPOy1j1rCncpIdrb/5au0d+uV/Cb94PsMS80ry6NpgW3uvX3bhLrBiIw3No94hRa/oRvO2m3cQ4PaK95PjnQJTFyFqJQDQYjMiNg+HMU8d46Abm4gFknOhHeTluwFQNwM8fFi+jFMjFVSlC68IJA= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=U2ygkRPK; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="U2ygkRPK" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0CABD1F000E9; Wed, 12 Aug 2026 17:14:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1786554869; bh=jRWeZo+DZaKSYFACngwhmjB9BJ/cy+4BTkxKWtpVr3o=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=U2ygkRPKhkUgp+XDQSlywS2EK8ohkPvQ7a1Ex8XeAf9RdblLl6O7tCght2HdZLnp9 PsnZ6xzeguXjdSbDKa8XuUHUmkubCCpFXTxh5EvB5AmiER5cUFRGCSta4EW5CHpj6A fQRIah1/+ghgUpmXsjmEL/uSapPwGqE7VirIeZR5w3I7e9zmbfuXwWVoaDCK1qDslg RAHO5HrZeqCiHp4Bz7A+3wKBRZZV9QY1/LMILI/T8eDXZAY7gP1yqhOQTv9DMf7+pb 3WtF0+5hTEv1OKUCmPJPc+triZiG53aY/lefWeTlriPS6RQybO/E40Z6XsvZeV9zKC 5Ww7KRhqEWQgQ== Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2026 14:14:25 -0300 From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo To: Guenter Roeck Cc: Lee Jones , Steven Rostedt , Breno Leitao , Mark Brown , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Thierry Reding , linux-next@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Any feedback for -next? Message-ID: References: <1025da50-3e21-43c7-a761-4f65ed5e5069@sirena.org.uk> <20260812112723.643f9502@gandalf.local.home> <20260812155932.GV1072730@google.com> <5f25ba58-f62b-4cf0-bd82-682cc39c7b96@roeck-us.net> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-next@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5f25ba58-f62b-4cf0-bd82-682cc39c7b96@roeck-us.net> On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 10:10:17AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote: > On 8/12/26 08:59, Lee Jones wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2026, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 04:42:21 -0700 > > > Breno Leitao wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 05:54:59PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > Would getting rid of these ephemeral commits make linux-next easier > > > > to work with? > > > This has come up at the Maintainers Summit in the past. I believe it is > > > even in the article I posted earlier in another thread. > > > https://lwn.net/Articles/1050027/ > > > We are even discussing issues about this in that other thread as well: > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/0a8c1e90-1de1-4a76-b0fa-e367a4bd4f55@sirena.org.uk/ > > > I try to keep my linux-next branch clean, but I do rebase to add tags. I do > > > on occasion remove commits if they prove to be totally broken. That's rare > > > but I rather have that then having to push something to Linus where a bunch > > > of commits are simply reverted. > > +1 > > FWIW, I have always reserved the right to rebase in order to remove, > > move around, reword and otherwise fix-up commits and do so often. To > > that end my 'next' branches are not, have ever been, nor do I intend > > them to ever be, stable. > Same here. I do it as a last resort, but its better to avoid having bug+fix things hitting upstream, i.e. trying to help with upstream bisectability. - Arnaldo